Hublot Big Bang and it's movement - a cop out? Or something else?

[Chronus]

I've been thinking. I wasn't interested in HBB due to the Asian 7750b1 copy movement and higher price. Is this movement such a good copy?

If the dealers say that the Swiss ETA 7750 movement won't fit (or work) in the HBB case, is this movement really a copy of the Swiss ETA 7750?

If the Asian 7750b1 is a copy of the Swiss ETA 7750, it stands to reason that they should be interchangeable, and that it should be possible to have a version with Swiss ETA 7750.

Any thoughts?

Edited April 15, 2007 by Chronus

[youpmelone]

ow yeah, great question:

Swiss eta, serif issues resolved and an engraved rotor, I would pay up to double of what they are going for now....

but with the current flaws, and the asian.. no way

[Maikel]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that Angus said he could deliver the HBB with the swiss movement.

[Watchmeister]

The gen is based on a 7750 with a specific module (I can't remember the number). Yellomen was selling one somewhere. To convert to Swiss it should only require retaining the few Asian gears that allow the movement of the date. It has been done with the PAM 196. You won't get the exact spacing between date wheel and dial as the gen but it will be very close. When I do finally give in and buy this one (or when they get the back right on the ceramic - whichever comes first) I am planning on doing the conversion.

[Jawo]

The gen is based on a 7750 with a specific module (I can't remember the number). Yellomen was selling one somewhere. To convert to Swiss it should only require retaining the few Asian gears that allow the movement of the date. It has been done with the PAM 196. You won't get the exact spacing between date wheel and dial as the gen but it will be very close. When I do finally give in and buy this one (or when they get the back right on the ceramic - whichever comes first) I am planning on doing the conversion.

It's based on the 7750/3.

[Watchmeister]

It is based on the 7750. Yellomen is selling a movement with this type of module:

http://www.rwg.cc/members/swiss-7750-with-module-t24282.html

This is ETA's substitute for the 7753 which they are rapidly phasing out.

[Chronus]

The gen is based on a 7750 with a specific module (I can't remember the number). Yellomen was selling one somewhere. To convert to Swiss it should only require retaining the few Asian gears that allow the movement of the date. It has been done with the PAM 196. You won't get the exact spacing between date wheel and dial as the gen but it will be very close. When I do finally give in and buy this one (or when they get the back right on the ceramic - whichever comes first) I am planning on doing the conversion.

That's an expensive rep! The rep ($400-600) plus the cost of the ETA 7750 plus the cost of the workmanship

[z3k0]

The gen is based on a 7750 with a specific module (I can't remember the number). Yellomen was selling one somewhere. To convert to Swiss it should only require retaining the few Asian gears that allow the movement of the date. It has been done with the PAM 196. You won't get the exact spacing between date wheel and dial as the gen but it will be very close. When I do finally give in and buy this one (or when they get the back right on the ceramic - whichever comes first) I am planning on doing the conversion.

There was already discussion about that, and I learned that gen movement is La Joux Perret movement which is basically 7750 with chrono module done by La Joux Perret.

bye

[Watchmeister]

Thanks for the info.

[RWG Technical]

As soon as one shows up here, we will know the answer...

RG

[rek001]

You guys are so smart and knowledgeable, you put the Timezoners to shame!

[mezzanine]

As soon as one shows up here, we will know the answer...

RG

I'm shocked one hasn't.

If I hadn't purchased one that had been serviced, it would've been immediately off to you.

Can't believe that smart members (probably more likely to be willing to pay for the HBB due to cost/interest ratio), wouldn't have their watches sent in for servicing. I worked at the Brantford casino through university, so I don't gamble.

[Watchmeister]

Well mine is supposedly on its way. I have to check with the seller. It should have been there already.

[archibald]

I'm confused. Are all the HBB rotors stickered or are some engraved? The Mellow Yellow is undoubtedly stickerized, but some of the pics I've seen seem to show engraved rotors (not that it matters much since the font is too bold and the casebacks are missing the "materials" engraving)...or maybe just pics that make the stickers look like engraving? All of the "H's" on the bridge are stickers, right?

[Guest RiverwindMDS]

All stickers...

[RWG Technical]

I'm confused. Are all the HBB rotors stickered or are some engraved? The Mellow Yellow is undoubtedly stickerized, but some of the pics I've seen seem to show engraved rotors (not that it matters much since the font is too bold and the casebacks are missing the "materials" engraving)...or maybe just pics that make the stickers look like engraving? All of the "H's" on the bridge are stickers, right?

The letters are indeed glued on...

How do I know?

Well I recognized the picture of one that was just posted, as I had serviced one a while back...unbeknown to me, I threw the rotor in the bath with the rest of the movement.

When I removed all the parts and dried them off, as I was putting them in the tray, I noted a letter "H", and then a "U" and then more letters...crap, I washed all the letters off...

I did reglue them in place, and clear coated them to keep them secure.

Embarassing to say the least.

RG