tgchrono2 Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 See the differences in case, bezek & acrylic crystal sizes............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 I made a comparsion time ago... Look and read here Comparsion MBW 1680 and CN 1680 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyp1 Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 (edited) For the money the CN is a good watch (almost 1/3 the cost) it also uses a better movement than the MBW. The two biggest faults here are the retaining ring that holds the crystal in and the bezel. neither watch is water proof, neither watches dial use the correct coronet and neither watch will fool a expert. That said the CN after the CGs are filed and a gen crystal is installed is a nice watch. If your a Noob like me really I wouldn't worry about the MBW as none of the dealers will sell you one anyhow. They are very selective about their client Edited June 10, 2007 by tonyp1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 For the money the CN is a good watch (almost 1/3 the cost) it also uses a better movement than the MBW. The two biggest faults here are the retaining ring that holds the crystal in and the bezel. neither watch is water proof, neither watches dial use the correct coronet and neither watch will fool a expert. That said the CN after the CGs are filed and a gen crystal is installed is a nice watch. If your a Noob like me really I wouldn't worry about the MBW as none of the dealers will sell you one anyhow. They are very selective about their client Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyp1 Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 (edited) "it also uses a better movement than the MBW..." What you are talking about,they use the same Movement ETA 2836-2 or when you get one Eta 2846... Man the CN 1680 is poor quality,Markers on the Dial have wrong size,Printing is bad etc... The steel is poor quality and so on...... UMM the newer models may be using a ETA but older models used MIYOTA movements. Steel quality is fine on the CN both watches have poor quality dials. I have a Gen 1680 and the CN for $180.00 is a nice watch. Im sorry but the MBW 1680 is not worth $400. When I was in the market for one about six months ago members were offering them to me for $600/$700. Like I said this is all academic as 80% of the members on this board couldn't get george or TTK to sell to them. http://replica-watch.info/forum/viewtopic....;highlight=1680 Edited June 10, 2007 by tonyp1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 Im sorry but the MBW 1680 is not worth $400. When I was in the market for one about six months ago members were offering them to me for $600/$700. Like I said this is all academic as 80% of the members on this board couldn't get george or TTK to sell to them. Ooops, I'm totally confused here. Why such a debate Tony? Tribal's thread of October 2006 is clear, helpful and makes it all obvious (I really want to bump it and probably will in minutes). Also, my experience with TTK / MBWs is: 1. A 1680 MBW costs 350$ shipping included and not 400$ (but even if it was 450$ it's worth the money). 2. He sold me one 1680 (and many other MBWs) although I am a SuperNoob. Just my 1680 cents Cheers Stephane Oh, and by the way, here some shots of another 1680 I got from Edge. Belive me Tony, I do not regret it at all ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazz Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 UMM the newer models may be using a ETA but older models used MIYOTA movements. Never seen any mbw's with miyota movements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyp1 Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 The first MBW 1680s were not powered by ETA movements. I believe it was a miyota movement. Im glad that he sold to you he (George) told me he didn't sell to those he didn't know. The price at the time was $400. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazz Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 OK, I never heard that before, I have not dealt with George I bought my ones direct from Maria with they were still around, cant rember the price but was it was less than $400. Another comparison similar to Tribals, 1680's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Thanks for the pics. It makes it evident why the MBW can take genuine parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyp1 Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 (edited) My CN accepted a gen crystal. I dont deny that the MBW is a better watch. It should be at 2x the price. Its also not as ready available as the CN.There must be some reason Joshua and Andrew choose not to carry MBW. Edited June 11, 2007 by tonyp1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Ok Tony. Well I have two comments: 1. You are very lucky if it does, and I'm very happy for you (I mean it) 2. Many experts here came to the same conclusion: MBW (or TW Best for some others) are not only the best but the only correct base for mods As a newbie in these matters, please forgive me if I trust RWG experts better and do not want other noobs to thing they can get a "perfect sub" for 200$ when it needs at least 4 times that budget and hundreds of hours of reading to get even close to a gen. Without even saying that the best moders down here have no time to answer all the requests they receive! Cheers Stephane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyp1 Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 As a fellow noob Ill tell you that with subs mostly what your paying for on MBWs are the CGs and the bezel. The dials, crowns. bracelets and movements are mostly the same on as any $188 sub. The rehaut can be a problem on cheaper subs. Anyone who is moderately good with modeling or working with metal can file the CGs to look acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Tony, Here is a good example of what we are talking about. A fellow proudly showed me his sub that he got while being in Hong Kong for 40$. Watching it on his wrist from meters away I could not say if it was a shiti one or ... So again, unless you have an RWG expert around, it's hard to answer this fundamental question: who has the best sub ;-) Cheers Stephane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyp1 Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 I see what what your saying but theres a big difference between a $40 sub and a $200 sub. Theres not much difference between a $200 sub with a some attention to the CGs and a $350 sub. For me dials and date wheels are what drive me nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 For me dials and date wheels are what drive me nuts. We are all nuts with dials and dw, even more with CGs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystalcranium Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 I just went for the 1665 MBW. According to Ubi, fewer dial issues than the 1680s. Getting it from TTK but I've been around for a while. Water resistance tested, QCd and regulated if necessary. But you are right about the avalanche of mods. I'm already looking at a $300+ service from Ziggy for a tube/crown, vintage lume, springbar drilling and aftermarket crystal replacement. I almost pulled the trigger on a $100 31 year old NIB bezel insert and a $250 genuine flat Tropic 39 on the bay before rationality set in. It will all happen in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 All i can say MBW 1680 or 1665 where never powered by a miyoto movement... Not the first ones not the present ones.... Sometimes they come with ETA 2846 but never with miyota movements... By the way the CN 1680 is a bad copy of the MBW... Most MBW cases are 440 Steel not 316L with is much easier to work on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.