sssurfer Posted April 25, 2006 Report Posted April 25, 2006 Ok, I admit it. I am one of those who bught box and papers too. Just 1 over 8 watches, just to get a hint on how the real thing looks and feels, but I actually bought it. Some months ago now. A PAM box + papers set. Too bad, I right now noticed a deadout flaw in the 'international guarantee certificate' (that small plasticized gray card resembling of a CC). The Italian writing actually spells 'CERTIFIDATO DI GARANZIA" where it should be 'CERTIFICATO' Is it about mine only, or anyone else got this card? Are there cards with the correct writing? Do you think this is an issue that I could ask for a replacement? ...and it's some months that the dealer I got it from seems missing now...
ahchard Posted April 25, 2006 Report Posted April 25, 2006 I did not purchase the full box set...but my 029 came with some papers...and the guarantee card... mine is correct... CERTIFICATO with the C
mossanti Posted April 25, 2006 Report Posted April 25, 2006 You are a unluckky bugger...LOL...welll maybe its just only you...but yeahh try to find the dealer...maybe not..just ignore it... So how is it feel to have a PAM with box + paper..? I'm considering to get full set with swiss mvtn swan neck ..What do you think ? Is it worth it ? cheers
sssurfer Posted April 25, 2006 Author Report Posted April 25, 2006 @ahchard: thanks for your reply @mossanti: I think it would be worth, if it just was correct
ahchard Posted April 25, 2006 Report Posted April 25, 2006 Thought I would post a pic of my card... it has the correct certificato spelling...but i noticed its missing the Firenze 1860... also.... the background of mine is Panerai Panerai Panerai...etc... but yours is Officine Panerai, etc... sorry for low quality pic... took a quick snap with my cellphone...
AMK000 Posted April 25, 2006 Report Posted April 25, 2006 (edited) All flaws are there for a reason. That applies to both watches and papers. Edited April 25, 2006 by AMK000
sssurfer Posted April 25, 2006 Author Report Posted April 25, 2006 Thought I would post a pic of my card... it has the correct certificato spelling...but i noticed its missing the Firenze 1860... also.... the background of mine is Panerai Panerai Panerai...etc... but yours is Officine Panerai, etc... sorry for low quality pic... took a quick snap with my cellphone... This is VERY interesting! Thanks! I'm going to start a search about the genuine (if no member owning a gen is going to help ). I personally find your version less disturbing than mine even if it should result less close to gen. How can a certificate be supposed to have spell errors?
mossanti Posted April 25, 2006 Report Posted April 25, 2006 YES YESS...go searchhh for panerai GEN papers ..and show it here..compare between differences in reps...
slay Posted April 25, 2006 Report Posted April 25, 2006 Ok, I admit it. I am one of those who bught box and papers too. Just 1 over 8 watches, just to get a hint on how the real thing looks and feels, but I actually bought it. Some months ago now. A PAM box + papers set. Too bad, I right now noticed a deadout flaw in the 'international guarantee certificate' (that small plasticized gray card resembling of a CC). The Italian writing actually spells 'CERTIFIDATO DI GARANZIA" where it should be 'CERTIFICATO' Is it about mine only, or anyone else got this card? Are there cards with the correct writing? Do you think this is an issue that I could ask for a replacement? ...and it's some months that the dealer I got it from seems missing now... crap!!! now you cant sell it as a gen on eBay *lol* seriously, this is a little flaw, i wouldnt bother a dealer with that
PAMman Posted April 25, 2006 Report Posted April 25, 2006 I have 2 genuine PAMs complete with papers / cards and a card supplied with my 029. The rep card is 100% accurate with correct spelling etc. It should not have FIRENZE 1860.
sssurfer Posted April 25, 2006 Author Report Posted April 25, 2006 @veni12 & PAMman: really thanks, your info is very useful. @veni12: Pls would you post a scan or shot of your card? Or tell me if it has "FIRENZE 1860" or else, and which inscriptions ("OFFICINE PANERAI" or "PANERAI") in the background? Can you tell me which dealer did you get it from? @PAMman: Pls would you post a scan or shot of one of your cards? (preferably gen, but also rep is ok since it is 100%). Or tell me which inscriptions ("OFFICINE PANERAI" or "PANERAI") it has in the background? Can you tell me which dealer did you get your rep card from? Really thanks again, :sss:
ahchard Posted April 25, 2006 Report Posted April 25, 2006 I have 2 genuine PAMs complete with papers / cards and a card supplied with my 029. The rep card is 100% accurate with correct spelling etc. It should not have FIRENZE 1860. so... pamman... would your card be the same as mine? or are there differences as well?
that_watch_guy Posted April 25, 2006 Report Posted April 25, 2006 I just looked at mine, and it also has a 'D', damn!
Craytonic Posted April 25, 2006 Report Posted April 25, 2006 "C" on my fiddy papers :thumbsup: But no background
V Posted April 25, 2006 Report Posted April 25, 2006 There were 2 versions of Papers... 1st BAD version I got it with my Homers box and I am quite sure it had D. 2nd GOOD version I got it from Eddie with a watch and it was the right one. 1st version is gone now but I will post photos tomorrow of my 2nd
sssurfer Posted April 26, 2006 Author Report Posted April 26, 2006 Ok, did some search. Results: Genuines (or supposed to be -- plase advice if you think differently): ??? (on eBay now @EUR100): Reps: Andrew: Angus: Aspire: Eddie Lee: Homer: Joshua: Quite puzzliing. What do you think? To me, it seems that there are two types of cards, both gen and rep: 1 - Without the "FIRENZE 1860" inscription, and with only "PANERAI" in the background. This appears as the most common or reliable gen version. Only EL has it. 2 - With the "FIRENZE 1860" inscription, and with "OFFICINE PANERAI" in the background. In the gen version it has the correct "CERTIFICATO" spelling, while in the rep version it is "CERTIFIDATO". All 'our' dealers but EL have this one.
PAMman Posted April 26, 2006 Report Posted April 26, 2006 so... pamman... would your card be the same as mine? or are there differences as well? Hi ahchard.......My rep card that came with my 029 (from EL) is the same as yours and the same as the 2 gens that I have (111 & 005).
Dani Posted April 26, 2006 Report Posted April 26, 2006 my fiddy papers are correct but not the box paper from Homer
premiumdesigners Posted April 26, 2006 Report Posted April 26, 2006 haha, i just got a box and papers from andrew, its also misspelled with the D. Woops
sssurfer Posted April 27, 2006 Author Report Posted April 27, 2006 That 'D' is going to become the recessed pin of box&papers... @Dani: your fiddy papers are supposed to be from EL, are they?
MAHLER Posted May 8, 2006 Report Posted May 8, 2006 (edited) The Italian writing actually spells 'CERTIFIDATO DI GARANZIA" where it should be 'CERTIFICATO' Ho visto su PT un PAN111 da lui venduto con scritta corretta su un documento allegato [C e non D] Allego la foto Thanks to ImageShack Edited May 8, 2006 by MAHLER
Jaymoi Posted May 8, 2006 Report Posted May 8, 2006 How can such an obvious flaw exist!? I remember when i got a gucci bag for it to say on it "Made in ITELY"! Sheeesh!
sssurfer Posted May 9, 2006 Author Report Posted May 9, 2006 Ho visto su PT un PAN111 da lui venduto con scritta corretta su un documento allegato [C e non D] Allego la foto Thanks to ImageShack Thanks, Mahler. I suppose PT stands for Precious Time, not Pure Time, correct? Too bad I already paid more than 100 bucks on my box & co. Can't think to get another just for that 'D'... ...or not?
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