yt74 Posted February 11, 2008 Report Posted February 11, 2008 I saw some talk a while back about a new 1-1 strap coming around January from Andrew, anybody know anything about this?
banshee35 Posted February 11, 2008 Report Posted February 11, 2008 Josh was supposed to have one ready the end of Jan. Last time I talked to him it still wasn't ready. I imagine Andrews' is probably coming from the same maker. I saw some talk a while back about a new 1-1 strap coming around January from Andrew, anybody know anything about this?
yt74 Posted February 12, 2008 Author Report Posted February 12, 2008 Josh was supposed to have one ready the end of Jan. Last time I talked to him it still wasn't ready. I imagine Andrews' is probably coming from the same maker. Thanks for the update, I wonder when we will see it?
r11co Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 Why does it matter exactly? What's with the sycophantic chasing of the irrelevant products of a particular dealer? They've been beaten to the turn by another dealer (Silix) who has been marketing a 1:1 22mm PO strap for almost a year now. Yeah - stop the presses for this one.. What's the headline?! Prolific cartel dealers 1 year late to the plate..... Maybe the reason for the no-show is that they've realised there's no bloody point. Oh, and haven't you heard?! PO on rubber is so 2006....
HauteHippie Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 Maybe a dumb question, not being an Omega guy, but is the only issue with the gen rubber strap the cost? I assume it fits the UPO just fine?
doc savage Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 Why does it matter exactly? What's with the sycophantic chasing of the irrelevant products of a particular dealer? They've been beaten to the turn by another dealer (Silix) who has been marketing a 1:1 22mm PO strap for almost a year now. Yeah - stop the presses for this one.. What's the headline?! Prolific cartel dealers 1 year late to the plate..... Maybe the reason for the no-show is that they've realised there's no bloody point. Oh, and haven't you heard?! PO on rubber is so 2006.... I know the strap from Silix fits, and it might be 1:1 but in the photos I've seen it looks cheap. The gen rubber strap is a ridiculous ripoff at $500 but it is very high quality, I was hoping to get something a little closer for my $50.
HauteHippie Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 I know the strap from Silix fits, and it might be 1:1 but in the photos I've seen it looks cheap. The gen rubber strap is a ridiculous ripoff at $500 but it is very high quality, I was hoping to get something a little closer for my $50. The 22mm all black divers strap and the black rubber with white stitching are both $175. You're thinking of a gen SS bracelet for $500.
amoliying Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 Andrew told me "Currently the Rubber Strap is not available... The best version PO Rubber Strap will be ready by march", so we
yt74 Posted February 13, 2008 Author Report Posted February 13, 2008 Why does it matter exactly? What's with the sycophantic chasing of the irrelevant products of a particular dealer? They've been beaten to the turn by another dealer (Silix) who has been marketing a 1:1 22mm PO strap for almost a year now. Yeah - stop the presses for this one.. What's the headline?! Prolific cartel dealers 1 year late to the plate..... Maybe the reason for the no-show is that they've realised there's no bloody point. Oh, and haven't you heard?! PO on rubber is so 2006.... Good points all around. Does this make 06 vintage now?
r11co Posted February 13, 2008 Report Posted February 13, 2008 I know the strap from Silix fits, and it might be 1:1 but in the photos I've seen it looks cheap. Well, I and several hundred other members here have the Silix one, and believe me it looks absolutely fine. It was modelled from a genuine strap so it is as good as it is going to get for a rep (if you can excuse the intentional '1 letter out' part code which is hidden behind the strap retainer anyway). I used to have two of Trusty's 20mm Seamaster rubber straps and they were crap by comparison, so I can't see how he intends to improve on the Silix item going by previous efforts.
doc savage Posted February 13, 2008 Report Posted February 13, 2008 Well, I and several hundred other members here have the Silix one, and believe me it looks absolutely fine. It was modelled from a genuine strap so it is as good as it is going to get for a rep (if you can excuse the intentional '1 letter out' part code which is hidden behind the strap retainer anyway). I used to have two of Trusty's 20mm Seamaster rubber straps and they were crap by comparison, so I can't see how he intends to improve on the Silix item going by previous efforts. Thanks, I get it, the Silix strap is modeled after a genuine strap--but the fact remains that it looks cheap. It doesn't matter much to me how many people bought it. I strongly doubt Trusty is making the straps; there are lots of different "factories" turning out lots of different fakes. All we are saying is it would be nice to have another option. This does not look absolutely fine:
r11co Posted February 14, 2008 Report Posted February 14, 2008 This does not look absolutely fine: a. That is your opinion. b. That opinion is formed by looking at a pretty average photograph of one example. My opinion is based on handling several of these straps in person. Oh, and it doesn't matter to you how many other people agree with me...... Who is right in this discussion?! Go figure. But, by all means wait for Trusty's. He's been promising arrival of 'his' version since he released a really bad copy of the CR special edition PO. Hope you can handle disappointment well. (FUD).
trekracer20 Posted February 16, 2008 Report Posted February 16, 2008 r11co-- There is certainly no need to get aggressive. We're talking about fake rubber straps. We are each entitled to our opinions, and if you are satisfied with the quality of the strap you have, then that's perfect. You don't need to reiterate the fact that Doc Savage's feeling about the strap in question is his opinion--of course it's his opinion. He posted it. This is all our opinions. And while that opinion was probably informed by viewing the photograph above of Silix's strap, I'm willing to guess that he's also taking into account several other people's opinions about the appearance and function of the strap, posted on this forum. We're talking about whether a given product meets the expectations of a particular individual, and I'm sorry but you can't be RIGHT when it comes to that. Your opinion is your own. MK
r11co Posted February 16, 2008 Report Posted February 16, 2008 We're talking about whether a given product meets the expectations of a particular individual, and I'm sorry but you can't be RIGHT when it comes to that. Your opinion is your own. Basing your expectations on a photograph is senseless when there is more information available to you. You wouldn't judge a restaurant from a photograph, or judge the driving experience of a car just by looking at it parked at the side of the road. My opinion and every else's who has praised this particular strap is based on actually owning, touching and wearing one. Who's opinion is likely to be more accurate?! Sorry, but I am sick of this 'you are so right, but...' approach that we have to take in order to avoid offending someone who can't handle the truth. If someone has the weight of opinion against them then they should accept it. The weight of opinion bearing against you shouldn't be mistaken for aggression (but we are all so soft these days because 'wrong' has become a dirty word). The Silix strap is good - one of the best rep straps there is. Plenty of people have said so. To disagree is to wilfully counter the statements of dozens of reputable members in here! Review. More 'opinions'. OK, so it won't be 'perfect', but then if someone's standards are so high why are they even considering reps?!
doc savage Posted February 17, 2008 Report Posted February 17, 2008 Those threads pretty much prove my point, not yours. It is made of a different, cheaper rubber than the gen. It attracts dust, like every other cheap rep strap, the gen does not. There is obvious flashing on the sides where the mold was not fit together properly. The metal on the buckle has a rough finish in the photo. There are reports of buckles with the logo off center. I have ordered a Silix strap, because of members reports that they are happy with it despite the flaws; that doesn't mean I wouldn't rather have a better one.
marrickvilleboy Posted February 17, 2008 Report Posted February 17, 2008 I have this same strap from silix and I find it to be quite nice. Its never going to be like the genuine one but for the price, i'm very happy. What a great alternative to the stainless steel. It goes well when you go swimming/beaching/outdooring. Light and easy on the arm.
vmena Posted February 17, 2008 Report Posted February 17, 2008 It attracts dust, like every other cheap rep strap, the gen does not. There is obvious flashing on the sides where the mold was not fit together properly. The metal on the buckle has a rough finish in the photo. These pics are of low quality so you can't be much precise on your observations. I had the gen rubber band and it also attracts the dust and I bought a used one, and the buckle was also a bit dirty, but nothing you can't solve with some polishing.
Dario33 Posted February 27, 2008 Report Posted February 27, 2008 Pics up on Josh's site now -- apparently has the same dust-repelling properties as the gen.
doc savage Posted February 27, 2008 Report Posted February 27, 2008 The price seems a bit much. But hey, it's 1:1, right? My order from Silix cleared customs, so I guess I'll find out tomorrow if it's good enough.
takashi Posted February 27, 2008 Report Posted February 27, 2008 I just ordered this strap from Josh. Let's see!
Dario33 Posted February 27, 2008 Report Posted February 27, 2008 Keep us posted taka. I had Silix's version and was not that impressed (one of the keepers tore in half anyway).
yt74 Posted February 28, 2008 Author Report Posted February 28, 2008 Pics up on Josh's site now -- apparently has the same dust-repelling properties as the gen. Figures, I just bought one on Ebay from a guy in Malaysia...
trekracer20 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Posted February 29, 2008 I gotta say, that strap of Josh's looks very nice--definitely higher quality than the Silix strap. I'm looking forward to seeing reviews/photos.
doc savage Posted March 1, 2008 Report Posted March 1, 2008 I like my Silix strap, but the gen does NOT have these seams running down the side from the mold it was cast in. They are more visible on the keepers, but apparent on the strap as well. Maybe they can be sanded off? Also, I'm curious what people have used (silicone?) to treat the rubber. It's not so much that it attracts dust, but the material itself has a dusty appearance unlike the smooth natural rubber Omega uses. Third, I tried all sorts of fatter spring bars and the bottom/longer strap still pops out at the case. The reason is not the bars, but there is not quite enough rubber "lip" to hold the bottom edge of the strap in place. The (inelegant but effective) solution was to stick a thin sliver of a folded up Post-It note between the lower edge of the strap and the case. It can't be seen, and it works, but it bugs me knowing it's there. Even with these issues it's a great strap, and as nice as the UPO bracelet is I won't be going back to it for a while--at least until QOS is out....
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