francodino Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 I wish "HAPPY BIDDING" !!!! "Very Rare Rolex Brevette Officine Panerai Ref: 3646" Item number: 250229167223 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capice Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 I wish "HAPPY BIDDING" !!!! "Very Rare Rolex Brevette Officine Panerai Ref: 3646" Item number: 250229167223 cool, looks like a VDBROUCKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 That crown is a bit strange, non original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJay Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 WOW, that's a lot of money for a Franken! I think I know this watch but I'm not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJay Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Correct. That's because it came with the PW the maker used to build it. Look at the 6 and 9, no where close to the gen. Davidsen's dials are much better. Here are some examples of the dials. From top to bottom are the watch on eBay, a gen 3646, and Davidsen's Vintage. Note how close Big D's dial is to the gen and how off the auction watch's is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Don't know Jay.. For me it doesn't even look remotely close to Dsn's dial hence fake. The crown is aftermarket but it is not strange for a watch that old to have an aftermarket crown. I think it is gen unless you know something more about it Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJay Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Don't know Jay.. For me it doesn't even look remotely close to Dsn's dial hence fake. The crown is aftermarket but it is not strange for a watch that old to have an aftermarket crown. I think it is gen unless you know something more about it Jay Look close at the 6 and 9, I've yet to see a vintage with open numbers like that. I do remember a collector doing his own hommage piece, and it looked much like that. The crown is what made me remember that piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Look close at the 6 and 9, I've yet to see a vintage with open numbers like that. I do remember a collector doing his own hommage piece, and it looked much like that. The crown is what made me remember that piece. Yes 6 & 9 are more open than usual but they have the correct thickness. DSN's are double the thickness and very wrong. Also the case from the ebay photos look ok and not modern style rep. Hands look ok, crystal looks ok.. Again I really don't know but my feelings say it is gen or this collector has done a MAGNIFICENT job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 FOUND IT!! And I knew I have seen a vintage like this before.. Here are 3 genuine Vintage Kampfs. The one on the right looks has more open 6 & 9 liek the one in the auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Yes 6 & 9 are more open than usual but they have the correct thickness. DSN's are double the thickness and very wrong. Also the case from the ebay photos look ok and not modern style rep. Hands look ok, crystal looks ok.. Again I really don't know but my feelings say it is gen or this collector has done a MAGNIFICENT job. DSN has dials with thinner indices, as well -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 DSN has dials with thinner indices, as well -- Good to know but don't think this is a rep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 I agree with you now. Although, like UJ, I had never seen a gen with that style 6/9 before, either. With vintage PAM pieces even more so than any other, you need to buy the seller more than the watch, it would seem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJay Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Here are 3 genuine Vintage Kampfs. The one on the right looks has more open 6 & 9 liek the one in the auction. I don't know V, they look the same to me. I feel that the dial on the eBay 3646 is different than the others and any I've ever seen. I checked Sr. Ferretti's site and they are all the same, as they should. With vintage PAM pieces even more so than any other, you need to buy the seller more than the watch, it would seem... I MUST CONCUR Peep (I always wanted to say that). 6 recent pos feedback, 24 total. A total of $18,000 with the last 6 sales, and we are (I believe with reason) questioning the authenticity of a $74,000 vintage Panerai ...... Ummmmm, run for the hills with your Amex black in pocket. Ahhhhhh, a civil discussion without snobbery or flaming ..... what a GREAT Community! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Well sometimes in watches like this the seller (if it is indeed a franken) knows probably very few for specificatins for the watch unless he has some paperwork from the company to certify the authenticity of the piece. The seller may look legitimate sometimes but there are cases where he has been tricked and he honestly believes he had a bargain and can make serious money I agree that it is not 100% definitive that it is a gen.. But my gut feeling says it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VDBroucke Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 here my selfmade kampfschwimmer i have step by step from gen pics my work.... plexi 6mm,case mods,dial,hands vintage mods,50er moljina motor with ``swanneck``,bigger caseback,vintage strap,buckle... i have over 20 gen pics from 3646er,here a small.... the best pics here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francodino Posted March 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Hey man, you are really mister vintage !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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