rblippy Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 I am very surprised and disappointed that the only Patek rep that is worthy is the Nautilus. Why are there more good Patek reps?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corgi Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Hi blippy, Interesting question. Patek is actually my favorite brand, and I was just as shocked as you to discover the many inaccuracies plaguing the available reps. Although high in amount, the majority of them do not even come near to the original design. There are a few models that are somewhat close to their gen counterparts (5119,5070,5130, 5002 sort of, 5165 come to mind right away) But these are definitely not perfect, and any connoisseur could call out the owner instantly. I'm not sure why they are so unavailable, but I think it has something to do with the exclusivity of the brand and the complicated nature of the watches. There are very few people who can actually afford the genuines, so reps will usually be perceived as bogus from the general public simply because "nobody can afford a patek". Most rep buyers want to get a watch with some believability factor, meaning something they could actually afford in genuine iteration. A Patek won't cut it for most - unless they sell their home or car. I have been waiting and waiting for a good Patek "super rep" but I think we just have to agree it ain't going to come. For lovers of the brand on a budget, the Nautilus and Aquanaut from MBK will just have to suffice for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadtorrent Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 I have been waiting and waiting for a good Patek "super rep" but I think we just have to agree it ain't going to come. For lovers of the brand on a budget, the Nautilus and Aquanaut from MBK will just have to suffice for now. Good explantion. I'd buy it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rblippy Posted March 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Hi blippy, Interesting question. Patek is actually my favorite brand, and I was just as shocked as you to discover the many inaccuracies plaguing the available reps. Although high in amount, the majority of them do not even come near to the original design. There are a few models that are somewhat close to their gen counterparts (5119,5070,5130, 5002 sort of, 5165 come to mind right away) But these are definitely not perfect, and any connoisseur could call out the owner instantly. I'm not sure why they are so unavailable, but I think it has something to do with the exclusivity of the brand and the complicated nature of the watches. There are very few people who can actually afford the genuines, so reps will usually be perceived as bogus from the general public simply because "nobody can afford a patek". Most rep buyers want to get a watch with some believability factor, meaning something they could actually afford in genuine iteration. A Patek won't cut it for most - unless they sell their home or car. I have been waiting and waiting for a good Patek "super rep" but I think we just have to agree it ain't going to come. For lovers of the brand on a budget, the Nautilus and Aquanaut from MBK will just have to suffice for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rblippy Posted March 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 The same goes for Lange and Sohne. According to my recollection there is nothing close. As a start they should move the sub-dials below the 3 and 9 for a good start. Wouldn't be great to see a Double Split Flyback?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 If you are looking for a patek super rep, then the mbk/mbw's will have to do. But simple Calatrava's are pretty good, ok they are not platinum but there are some good ones. I've also had my eye out for an Aquanaut, the one I remember seeing on a rubber strap which was pretty decent from what I can remember. ST The same goes for Lange and Sohne. According to my recollection there is nothing close. As a start they should move the sub-dials below the 3 and 9 for a good start. Wouldn't be great to see a Double Split Flyback?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corgi Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 I've also had my eye out for an Aquanaut, the one I remember seeing on a rubber strap which was pretty decent from what I can remember. Accuracy was on par with the Nautilus in my opinion. There were some errors but, like most MBK, I recall the quality was good. I have seen only one person on the forums with this watch, so in terms of exclusivity, it is a good choice. I, personally, despise absolutely everything about the Aquanaut - in my opinion it is absolutely foul and horrendous looking and I certainly won't pay $400 just because it is a Patek rep from MBK. The Nautilus is more than I need to be satisfied, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beanyboy Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Accuracy was on par with the Nautilus in my opinion. There were some errors but, like most MBK, I recall the quality was good. I have seen only one person on the forums with this watch, so in terms of exclusivity, it is a good choice. I, personally, despise absolutely everything about the Aquanaut - in my opinion it is absolutely foul and horrendous looking and I certainly won't pay $400 just because it is a Patek rep from MBK. The Nautilus is more than I need to be satisfied, really. Patek's standard bearer model, the Ref. No. 3919 Calatrava, used to be available in a great version from River. I bought mine from River about four or five years ago, and it's a mainstay of my dress rep collection. I have a friend with an original, and we compared them, and they are nearly identical, other than weight. My rep came with a bad strap, but I put on a nice Hirsch real black crocodile band, and nobody can tell the differnece. There are seveal inexpensive 3919 reps available, buth they are not the same quality as the River super-rep. I would email him and see if he can't get you one. Manual movement in it keeps time accurately to =/- 6 seconds every 24 hours. Not bad, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronology1066 Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Think it might take some time. Once the Pannie fad moves on we might see more dressy stuff available. I would love a really nice manual PP of the size 0 variety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rblippy Posted April 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Patek's standard bearer model, the Ref. No. 3919 Calatrava, used to be available in a great version from River. I bought mine from River about four or five years ago, and it's a mainstay of my dress rep collection. I have a friend with an original, and we compared them, and they are nearly identical, other than weight. My rep came with a bad strap, but I put on a nice Hirsch real black crocodile band, and nobody can tell the differnece. There are seveal inexpensive 3919 reps available, buth they are not the same quality as the River super-rep. I would email him and see if he can't get you one. Manual movement in it keeps time accurately to =/- 6 seconds every 24 hours. Not bad, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rblippy Posted April 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Thanks for the feedback, how can I reach River? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltatahoe Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 @corgi, i have to disagree with you about the aquanaut...it's a dressy sports watch, which imho is a pretty unique combination. deltatahoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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