docdoc Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 (edited) Hello, I have read some "scary" stuffs about the Asian 7750 mouvement. It's supposed not to be very reliable. As I am new to all this watches world I wonder which seasmaster chrono you will pick between : http://www.pam111.com/product_info.php?cPa...roducts_id=1416 (which as the accurate numbers for the date and W-2334 AUTOMATIC ASIA 7750) or http://www.trustytime88.com/index.php?main...41ecf1395517d4a (which as not the right date numbers but which claims to have New Asia Valjoux 7750 Working Chronograph (28,800bph)) Edited July 9, 2008 by docdoc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratedzeus Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 You will get the same watch. But don't get it from pam111...! Both watches you order will have the incorrect date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdoc Posted July 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 You will get the same watch. But don't get it from pam111...! Both watches you order will have the incorrect date. Really ? why not Pam ? first email exchange was ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steppen Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 to be honest i'd be surprised if you got that date font from pam111, but you never know the OLD 7750 was unreliable, the NEW 7750 is just fine, get it serviced if you want more security Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16a2 Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 They all stock the same watch now, unfortunately you will have to swap the datewheels to make it as good as the first batch (relatively cheap). Don't worry about the movement, historically the 21k 7750 was a real pig of a movement, the newer one is much better. For peace of mind and a very good reliable movement a service is recommended, but it is as good as most movements out there on the rep market at the moment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdoc Posted July 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 They all stock the same watch now, unfortunately you will have to swap the datewheels to make it as good as the first batch (relatively cheap). Don't worry about the movement, historically the 21k 7750 was a real pig of a movement, the newer one is much better. For peace of mind and a very good reliable movement a service is recommended, but it is as good as most movements out there on the rep market at the moment! Ok, thanks a lot for the prompt answers. I wonder if there were some tutorials available for servicing your watches yourself (I doubt my local watchsmith will be happy with a rep)? Maybe I should open another thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16a2 Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 If you have no experience in servicing a watch before I would not make this a watch that you experiement on. There are tutorials flying about, but it would not be an easy movement to start on. Best thing would be to approach your local watchsmith and ask him about it, my local one was more than happy to work on mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdoc Posted July 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 If you have no experience in servicing a watch before I would not make this a watch that you experiement on. There are tutorials flying about, but it would not be an easy movement to start on. Best thing would be to approach your local watchsmith and ask him about it, my local one was more than happy to work on mine. will try that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 I wonder if there were some tutorials available for servicing your watches yourself[ Oh that's easy man... just open the caseback and spray some CRC in there. Just kidding of course. Servicing a movement is not something that even experienced watch modders here can do. It's a job for real professionals. Don't even THINK that you could do it yourself without completely f*cking up your watch. All my 7750 reps have been running great (some for years already). You should be ok with it. Good luck with the purchase, SMP Chrono is one of the best reps out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdoc Posted July 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreww Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Great first choice for a chrono. I picked one of these up recently and must say its the most accurate chrono I own. Its an absolutely beautiful watch, and should be in everyones collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casanile Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 (edited) will try that Edited July 10, 2008 by antomarty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakemaster Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Pam111 bad. Servicing a 7750 is something that takes a lot of time. There are many things that can go awry when messing with them. I rarely work on them unless it is my own piece. In many cases where I am dealing with a 7750 that has totally seized up, a complete disassembly usually uncovers so many severe problems that it is almost better to replace the movement. If you get it servicd starting on day one and maintain it, you should get a pretty good lifespan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casanile Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 I went to my local watchsmith, he is okay but asked me 400 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanya Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 If you don't have access to a viable watchsmith to service, repair or regulate your reps I would stay away from the asian 7750. Just my opinon, far too unreliable out of the box and not neccesarily because of the movement alone but even more so factory quality control. Now if you get one and can have someone service it right away your gold because it's can be an excellent movement properly serviced. Both the Asian and Swiss 7750's are complex movement and tend to need more attention than simply taking them out of a package and popping them in a watch. They should be properly oiled, regulated and with a good amount of care. Just my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonz1000 Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 i want to buy one as well, does anyone know what quality precious times sells? and if the chrono has ar coating? cheers Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonz1000 Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 i want to buy one as well, does anyone know what quality precious times sells? and if the chrono has ar coating? cheers Jason or maybe someone who bought it from precious times, i'm really curious about the quality he sells.. jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 I think the main question here is not the watch but the seller, @ the OP do some reasearch on Pam111, aka paul, aka womart @ Jason, PT will have the new version just ask him and he will get it if it is not in stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonz1000 Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 I think the main question here is not the watch but the seller, @ the OP do some reasearch on Pam111, aka paul, aka womart @ Jason, PT will have the new version just ask him and he will get it if it is not in stock. thnx mate, i will contact him and order then.. cheers Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman_Fred Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 It's strange how there are so many "horror stories" being banded about !! I have bought a number of watches from Paul and I've only had one that needed major surgery ! Paul is always prompt with his emails and his service is generally good. Where he lets himself down is his after sales service. Therefore, if you get a good watch from him - no problems, if it dies, be prepared for aggro ! Also, like many of the members of this board, I have a number of watches with the Asian 7750 (I don't know whether they are the old or new versions !). So far, I have found them to be extremely reliable and keep very good time. Funnily enough, I've had more trouble with Swiss ETA movements !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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