JCYL Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 (edited) I'm not sure; I think the lever pin looks funny (like a dimple)....maybe it's like that in the real thing? Edited December 15, 2008 by JCYL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veyron Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 gen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 I dont know why but i dont think it is a gen, CG pin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCYL Posted December 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 gen hmm, why? u may be right though i can't really tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 difficult to tell from that bad photo with the blurred lettering and the cg in an angle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadog13 Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 but you can see the reflection in the bezel of the guy smiling...so I suppose he is smiling because he knows it's not a GEN but he is only trying to pass it like one...and he is happy with the quality of the photo because it ain't telling anything...only confusing the potential buyer.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCYL Posted December 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 (edited) another thing is, shouldn't the hour/minute hands be silver instead of black? even with very low lighting, i think they should still show up as silver? i actually know the person who owns this very watch; to my surprise, he knows about DSN!!! i think most people who buy genuine pam wouldn't know about DSN.... and yes, he says the watch is genuine; i haven't got a chance to look at it closely yet based on how the CG pin reflects light, i have my doubt... Edited December 15, 2008 by JCYL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolli Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 gen.. the marker on the 9 o'clock position has the right length and position. cartel has different numerals and davidsen has a wrong marker. rolli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCYL Posted December 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 (edited) so i got this image from josh's page: how does this known rep compare to the one i posted? its marker on the 9 o'clock position looks okay too my eyes are still not acute enough... Edited December 15, 2008 by JCYL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolli Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 are you blind ?? see the numerals, they are totally different. rolli so i got this image from josh's page: how does this known rep compare to the one i posted? its marker on the 9 o'clock position looks okay too my eyes are still not acute enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veyron Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 I have the gen and this has the good crown, crownguard with moon shape (pin looks not good due to light or something) and finish of the lume on dial. Also paint on the dial on reps is wrong (compared mine with a rep) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archibald Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 are you blind ?? see the numerals, they are totally different. rolli Blind or not that dial is no indication of that watch's authenticity. I know of 5 104 dials selling over the past 4 months, which means there have been many more sold in total. The OP needs to get closeups of the cyclops, CG pin, and if possible, caseback to determine if the watch is gen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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