webvan Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Just got the the Vacheron Constantin Rep I ordered from PAM11, the ASIA 2892 FOR MAN PATRIMONY ROSE GOLD SILVER (link to add on RWG) with an Automatic Asia 2892-2 and for some reason it stops after a couple of minutes, about 5. I sent him an email about that problem but haven't heard back yet. At first I hadn't wound it, as I never do it with automatic movements, just shaken it a bit to get the rotor moving. Thinking it maybe needed some help I wound it and now it runs longer, between 30 and 50 minutes for my new tries, but ends up stopping again. Probably not much I can do on my end and since its brand new he'll probably ask me to ship it back, but is that a known problem on these movements ? One thing I noticed right off the bat too is that if I shake it so as to make the rotor turn really fast the seconds briefly stops. Never noticed that on any other automatic watch. Thanks for any help ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shundi Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Hmmm... I've never had an issue with my Asia 2892 copies but then again I've been lucky and we all know QC is a toss up... I imagine you've slowly wound it for 30-40 turns and then set it down to see how long the power reserve is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Send it back, definatley a problem i have not seen before, the ST 26 is normaly pretty good, if the rotor is turning fast the may not be winding the movement at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webvan Posted December 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 ST26 is the name of the Asian 2892-2 copy ? Thanks for your comments. It doesn't seem to be a power reserve problem because one small tap and it starts ticking again for X minutes, seems to be longer each time I tap it! Maybe some lubing issue or something rubbing? The fact that the seconds stop when the rotor is made to spun fast seems fishy too ? I suppose I'm going to be out of pocket again on the return costs :-( After having to send back 4 watches (one was the wrong model) to watcheden a couple of weeks ago and now this, I'm beginning to think you're better off getting a second hand rep from a member here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 I think any competant watch smith could service this and solve the problem, at the worst case you could replace the st 26 with one from cousins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Not totally unusual for this model to have problems... The rotor is bi-directional winding, so it shouldn't move freely, but you have to handwind a 2892 about 75 turns on the crown for a full wind. There are no issues on this one for handwinding, so first I would hand wind it and see what it does. If it doesn't work, it could be one of many problems, and probably not something you can fix anyway. Disapointing, but I have replaced a number of these movements with genuine ETA ones over the years, they aren't very good in my opinion. Good luck, RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webvan Posted December 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Thanks again, yes rather disappointing, I can't see how Pam111 could refuse to take it back and fix it since its new, but the whole hassle of shipping and waiting is annoying. I don't know a local watchsmith who works on reps I could take it to and it seems like you don't think it's worth servicing it anyway, you'd just put in a better movement ? By the way I've put a picture of the watch below and I'm not sure Cousins ST18 would fit the date part ? I googled ST26 but I'm not seeing for sure it's the 2892-2 ? o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 If the watch was a "keeper" for me, I would install a ETA 2892 in place of this one. This is only my opinion, but looking in my spares scrapped out watch cabinet, there are a number of these movements sitting there...un-repairable and just plain troublesome. It could be something really simple causing the problem, like a hand or hands touching, but then again, it could be a major issue with the movement. I hope it all works out in the end. RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webvan Posted December 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Thanks, I'll see how it goes, for some reason it's been ticking over the past two hours now, maybe something got "unstuck" ! I quite like the watch, I saw the gen at a show the other day, to die for...and unaffordable too at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emuozz Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Some time ago the ST-18 was the one we think used to be the copy of the 2892, now it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webvan Posted December 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Thanks for the help guys, I'm sending it back to Pam111 so he can fix it/swap it, I'll post here if I get any info on what was wrong to it can help others with the same problem. @The Zigmeistersumba - thanks for your reply to my PM, I answered today to say thanks, but it seems your PM is closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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