did crown size change on the 16610 sub?

[kenneth2]

i have recently read that perhaps rolex has made the crown size larger on some newer 16610s

can someone confirm this and if so on what series of 16610 did they change?

thanks

[alligoat]

Haven't heard that. There is a new Rolex 7mm crown out- the 24-704-0. It may fit a 24-7030-0 case tube, but I don't know. Here's the chart showing it on the 14060M, 116520, etc. Look on the second page, far right column.

http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=66457

I would figure as a 30 year old watch, the 16610 is due for a revamping. But I expect the new model to be a 116610 and then the upgrades will be made. I don't know if the two new Submariners out- one's white gold with a blue dial and bezel- maybe the other was YG and black dial and bezel- fatter cases, maybe those are 116610's.

[kenneth2]

thanks, so are you saying the case hasnt changed in 30 years?

what about the lug holes vs no lug holes, is that not considered a different case?

the charts are a good reference too

Edited December 21, 2008 by ken Garchow

[alligoat]

There was some discussion around here about a change in the 16610 case, but I don't think it had anything to do with the lugholes. Other Rolex watches like the DJ have also lost their lugholes- heck it was bound to happen. But a case change to the 16610 would be minor, I would think, since the bezel assembly still fits- heck, the 16800 bezel assembly is what's used on the 16610- so it's 30 years old, almost.

Most of the other Rolexes have been updated- GMTIIc, Deepsea Sea-Dweller, Datejust. But not the Day-Date, I believe.

The Sub is in the process- at Basel 2008, the new 18KYG and 18KWG subs with blue dials and bezels were introduced.

http://www.rolex.com/en/index.jsp#/en/xml/...ubmariner/index

Certainly the Basel 2008 case is different from the standard sub case:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-ROLEX-SS-BLACK-MEN...%3A2%7C294%3A50

This regular 2008 M serial is the old case, whereas Basel 2008 is a new case design. Basel 2008 is a different watch, whereas the M serial is just an old 16610 with some superficial updates.

[kenneth2]

thanks

i think the new case your talking about for a future sub is the same case as on the new gmt II cer now

that is a nice looking case

it may also have a larger crown

i am starting to think the 16610 has not had a change in the crown size

[alligoat]

I just went back and looked at stility's crown chart. It was published in 2003- long before the GMTIIC came out.

Also, there is a 16610 and a 16610T. I don't know what the T designation signifies- it could be the no lugholes case- that happened around that time.

As much as you study this stuff, there's just some information that only Rolex knows and they don't share much- kinda like US intelligence- 'only on a need to know basis'.

[Omega]

Telling from the pics the crown size has not changed. The only difference I see in the triplock dots - they are bigger...

[kenneth2]

omega, is your crown photo a 16610 sub or a deep sea

is the deep sea and 16610 same crown?

your comment on the larger dots does sound familiar, was this done to mark some other change?

i just want to make sure i am shooting for the correct crown size on my wm9 V2 sub

thanks crown masters

[Omega]

omega, is your crown photo a 16610 sub or a deep sea

is the deep sea and 16610 same crown?

your comment on the larger dots does sound familiar, was this done to mark some other change?

i just want to make sure i am shooting for the correct crown size on my wm9 V2 sub

thanks crown masters

It is a gen deep sea, the gen crowns from a sub you can see on the link in my signature...