blackbard Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Thank you for the advice and private PMs. Production starts soon and should be available late next week. I should be able to keep them in the $25-30 range. 47mm case coming soon... In addition to having custom buckles made, I asked my manufacturer to create a caseback tool. He delivered the prototype to me yesterday. It is made from Billet aluminum and will work on 44mm classic and current model Pams although it will not fit the Ferrari. I want to know before a major production run the interest level. I will post pics of the prototype tonight but it will most likely not look exactly the same as I will be making changes to it. So please respond with interest. I still will probably make some but it may not be a major run if the interest is not there. My issue with a local watchmaker who refused to take my watch in for fear of scratching the case was one of the impetus behind this. He could not open the case so I had to do it with duct tape which wasnt pretty or safe..... Let me know....I'll be able to supply these in the 40-80 range....Dont know for sure until I get some numbers of interested parties.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Depending on price, I would be interested! I have just enough PAM projects going on where this would be a good item to have in the arsenal.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 I might be interested also, but again depends on price. Maybe these are made from machined aluminium tube? Not sure of the best manufacturing process. From bar also, but lots of waste. What would be really good would be those that do 44mm one side and 47mm the other....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbard Posted June 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Nice Idea. I can do that. Do you have dimensions you could PM me? I will be calling the manufacturer today and this can be on of the changes. Might make it uncomfortable to use but efficient nontheless. I might be interested also, but again depends on price. Maybe these are made from machined aluminium tube? Not sure of the best manufacturing process. From bar also, but lots of waste. What would be really good would be those that do 44mm one side and 47mm the other....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goin6633 Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Actually , I think the plastic open ball is my best choice . No matter what size , no matter which model , I can open most every replica as well . And the most important reason is , it's very cheap ! Because it's just the toy for the kids ! Very useful !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Nice Idea. I can do that. Do you have dimensions you could PM me? I will be calling the manufacturer today and this can be on of the changes. Might make it uncomfortable to use but efficient nontheless. If you're machining aluminium from scratch, then I'd second that dual-size - think of it like a cylinder with the opening on one side 44m and on the other 47mm. The two ridged/octagonal hand grips can be placed 10mm or so down from the end (one at each), enabling a good grip from the opposite side. If that makes sense? Sure someone can mock up a quick sketch. I'd definitely be interested, but not at 80 - I think a dual opener at 60 would be your magic price point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avitt Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Good project. You're probably already doing this, but you should cut out the corners of the octagon, so that the wrench only makes contact with the flat areas. ...Oh, and make sure that the walls are really thin, so that you don't have to remove your strap to use the tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbard Posted June 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Good suggestions. I already ran into the strap/crown issue on the prototype. It is being corrected now... I'll post some pics later... Good project. You're probably already doing this, but you should cut out the corners of the octagon, so that the wrench only makes contact with the flat areas. ...Oh, and make sure that the walls are really thin, so that you don't have to remove your strap to use the tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltatahoe Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 i'm assuming you're talking about something like this: the picture is from angus -- he had access to these at some point in time (you can see more pics in his photobucket here). probably worth emailing him to see if they are still available and if so, at what price deltatahoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbard Posted June 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Yes. Havent been able to find. In development so I'll see if I get them cheap. Mine was free... i'm assuming you're talking about something like this: the picture is from angus -- he had access to these at some point in time (you can see more pics in his photobucket here). probably worth emailing him to see if they are still available and if so, at what price deltatahoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbard Posted June 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 $25-40 range...Not as glamorous as Angus' or as multifunctional as orb...Just pure tool... In addition to having custom buckles made, I asked my manufacturer to create a caseback tool. He delivered the prototype to me yesterday. It is made from Billet aluminum and will work on 44mm classic and current model Pams although it will not fit the Ferrari. I want to know before a major production run the interest level. I will post pics of the prototype tonight but it will most likely not look exactly the same as I will be making changes to it. So please respond with interest. I still will probably make some but it may not be a major run if the interest is not there. My issue with a local watchmaker who refused to take my watch in for fear of scratching the case was one of the impetus behind this. He could not open the case so I had to do it with duct tape which wasnt pretty or safe..... Let me know....I'll be able to supply these in the 40-80 range....Dont know for sure until I get some numbers of interested parties.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyback Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Do you think to create a 47mm caseback tool too ? I'm in a for a 47mm one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowoulf_1 Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Davidsen also make a version but I'm not sure of the cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosk Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 ebay has a octangular wrench for 44 mm pams for $40 so I'd be interested if it were cheaper...30 or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbard Posted June 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Send me the dimensions, I will have it priced. Do you think to create a 47mm caseback tool too ? I'm in a for a 47mm one. I believe I can beat that... ebay has a octangular wrench for 44 mm pams for $40 so I'd be interested if it were cheaper...30 or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Diddy Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 where can I get this plastic ball from and how much? Please describe how exactly it is used, not 100% clear how the plastic ball is used. thanks Actually , I think the plastic open ball is my best choice . No matter what size , no matter which model , I can open most every replica as well . And the most important reason is , it's very cheap ! Because it's just the toy for the kids ! Very useful !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbard Posted June 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 They rely on friction. Some have said that applying too much pressure on the glass may create damage....These are reps...However, YMMV. On ebay, it is sold as Orb... where can I get this plastic ball from and how much? Please describe how exactly it is used, not 100% clear how the plastic ball is used. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Diddy Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 I don't understand the reference to the glass bit? Are they not for opening the case back? They rely on friction. Some have said that applying too much pressure on the glass may create damage....These are reps...However, YMMV. On ebay, it is sold as Orb... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbchubb Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 I don't understand the reference to the glass bit? Are they not for opening the case back? This was referring to see-through casebacks and the use of the plastic ball to open them. You need to press the ball to the crystal in order to use the friction for opening/closing. The crystal, however, is just like on the other side of the watch - it is pressed into the outer steel part of the caseback. Too much pressure might be problematic. If you are not doing this often, the ball is an option. If you are planning on doing a lot of work on your PAMS, I would get one of these openers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbchubb Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 I would be interested in a 47mm version (or one that does both sizes) depending on a competitive price. I already have two 44's from Angus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbard Posted June 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Would anyone be willing to loan me a case back from a 47mm to create the prototype for the tool? If not, does anyone have one to sell? Thank you for the advice and private PMs. Production starts soon and should be available late next week. I should be able to keep them in the $25-30 range. 47mm case coming soon... In addition to having custom buckles made, I asked my manufacturer to create a caseback tool. He delivered the prototype to me yesterday. It is made from Billet aluminum and will work on 44mm classic and current model Pams although it will not fit the Ferrari. I want to know before a major production run the interest level. I will post pics of the prototype tonight but it will most likely not look exactly the same as I will be making changes to it. So please respond with interest. I still will probably make some but it may not be a major run if the interest is not there. My issue with a local watchmaker who refused to take my watch in for fear of scratching the case was one of the impetus behind this. He could not open the case so I had to do it with duct tape which wasnt pretty or safe..... Let me know....I'll be able to supply these in the 40-80 range....Dont know for sure until I get some numbers of interested parties.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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