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The team here at RWG has noticed over an extended time now that many new members are struggling to have either good dealings with sellers or a reasonable understanding of a fair process should something go wrong. We have therefore decided to lay down some guidelines based on the many years of buying and selling experience that can be found in the RWG Admin team. These guidelines are intended to be broad enough to cover both buying from a trusted dealer and member to member trades. Therefore this guide will be broken into sections looking at all aspects of buying. Buying It is extremely unlikely that a senior member or trusted dealer will set out to scam you. Yes it can happen, but not by anyone who wants to stay a part of our community. For this reason you should enter into transactions with these sellers with the mindset that you are going to get what you paid for. The number one cause of grief usually comes from the buyer entering into the deal with a suspicious mind. If you look hard enough, dig deep enough you will eventually find something to complain about in any trade. If, on the other hand, a genuine issue does arise and you are both on good terms then sorting that issue will not only be easier but a great deal quicker and more pleasant. It is the buyer’s responsibility to make sure that they know what they are buying. The seller will list the item with pic’s, price and full disclosure but the buyer should not assume that the item has some feature or function unless they ask the seller directly. Once the item has been paid for and shipping confirmed the seller’s responsibility ceases until the goods arrive. We often hear complaints how a seller has gone silent once the item has been bought. As long as the item is not long overdue then the seller does not have to keep a running commentary going with you. He sold you goods, not added you to his Christmas card list. Buyers need to check with the shipper &/or their local post office to see how long shipments take & what each of the entries in their tracking form means. Buyers need to realize that sellers have lives (outside of RWG), too & may not always be able to respond immediately to every email, PM or phone call made by an over-anxious newbie. Buyers should learn to be patient & limit communications to no more than 1/week. Buyers should never inundate a seller with repeated, threatening &/or lengthy diatribes. These rarely produce a positive result. Selling Prices are mandatory for all sales by members or dealers! RWG is a global community and as such hosts many different languages and customs. Just because the seller knows what he has stated he should not simply assume the buyer understands. For this reason it is crucial for the seller to include as much information as possible, but in clear concise terms, into their sales thread. Dealers should have pinned instructions on how to buy in their sales area, stating any special terms or conditions. Remember it does not matter how long you have done this for, the noob still will not know. A seller, both dealers and members, must always remember that things can go wrong and when they do they need to have a policy on how this can be fixed. Yes a private seller may add a clause stating all risks are the buyers but it must be written not simply expected. RWG hosts a member policed sales area. This means that members do have the right to point out issues that they may see with a sale. A seller has the right to ask any price he wants for his merchandise but he has to expect the members to question that price if they feel it is unrealistic. When problems arise [*]The very best offer you can get is to repair or replace. Once this offer is on the table the buyer should have no further qualms. [*]Shipping will always be a contentious issue as the buyer feels he has already paid the price on purchase, however issues are rarely the sellers fault, most in fact come from shipping. The buyer must always be aware of the sellers shipping policy or be willing to negotiate if an item needs to be returned. [*]Again senior members and trusted dealers will want to work with you when issues arise as it is their reputation on the line, however it is often the buyer attitude when dealing with issues that can turn the whole thing acrimonious. [*]Paypal disputes, often end poorly for both parties, so they should be used only as a last resort ie: when there is a serious problem with the sale and the seller has ceased communications or the seller is conducting a scam (a watch or other item that arrives damaged is NOT a scam!). [*]Buyers should only contact Admins in the following situations: 1. After receiving their item and there's a problem & the seller refuses to make it right, 2. If it has been more than 1 week since the last communication with the seller afterf the buyer reported a problem with the item, or 3. To report their being included in a global scam. Buyer beware One final note: when buying from a member who has very few posts or has just joined, it is advisable to be a little cautious before proceeding. Begin with a PM and ask some simple questions. Ask for a picture of the item with a tag showing the date and members name. Ask the seller if they are a member of any other forum so you can at least get to know them and check their reputation before proceeding with the transaction. If a seller gets defensive about the inquiries then there is every chance you are facing a scam and it is advisable to just walk away. The above can be just as true for a buyer so the same precautions should be taken. RWG provides you, the member, the safest possible platform for a happy buying/selling experience. However it is not always foolproof and members must always remember caveat emptor...’Let the buyer beware’. RWG Admin Team.

UPDATE April 17 2013 Due to the high demand for AP lume, AR and movement service we decided to hire another watch smith to help us do "Full service”, he will be dedicated to: *take movement apart *clean using ultrasonic *put movement back together, oil, lube and grease then regulate beat and rate. I will still do all other mods like always! This will improve our turn around time by at least 30% PLEASE note that till will affect work received after April 25 2013 All other work already with me will be finished ASAP. Thanks for your support over the years and looking forward to provide the same or better quality with shorter turnaround.

An English man stopped at a local restaurant following a day roaming around in Andalucía. While sipping his Cervesa, he noticed a sizzling, scrumptious looking platter being served at the next table. Not only did it look good, the smell was wonderful. He asked the waiter, 'What is that you just served?' The waiter replied, 'Ah senor, you have excellent taste! Those are called Cojones de Toro, bull's testicles, from the bull fight this morning. A delicacy!' The man said, 'What the heck, bring me an order.' The waiter replied, 'I am so sorry senor. There is only one serving per day because there is only one bull fight each morning. If you come early and place your order, we will be sure to save you this delicacy.' The next morning, the man returned, placed his order, and that evening was served the one and only special delicacy of the day. After a few bites, inspecting his platter, he called to the waiter and said, 'These are delicious, but they are much, much smaller than the ones I saw you serve yesterday.' The waiter shrugged his shoulders and replied, 'Si, Senor, sometimes the bull wins.’

Every once in awhile, I come across a pic that takes my breath away. As most here know, the Lange 1 is heart-stoppingly beautiful in any context. But I found this pic on another website & was so taken by it (both the watch & the pic) that I thought it was worth reposting here

The more I wear this beauty, the more I like it.

Hi there ! I guess my 6538 project has started in a beautiful way... Hard to find a 1030 movement in this conditions ! Already have the packaged gen 800 crown and 8000 tube And waiting for the dial and the other parts... Thanks A. - you're the best ! R.

Hi chaps, Thought I'd share this with you guys! After this. http://m.local.stv.tv/edinburgh/news/200982-blind-man-in-wheelchair-robbed-and-assaulted-in-his-edinburgh-home/ Happened to me last year and my gen Skyland was taken I finally got the insurance money sorted and went to find a nice 2nd hand Skyland, thinking with the cash I'll be getting I could get something else nice too. But not to be, I was given a company card for Signet Group, not the greatest jewellers ever, but they sell some nice watches, so bugger it says I and go looking for what they have! I spent a while trawling their website, was very close to buying the blue dial SOH, but then I discovered a watch I've drooled over since it came out!! So I order one, they say each piece is hand made and it will be a six week turn around, this ended up being a 9 week turn around, but to those who wait and all that! I haven't been very well the last couple of weeks, so haven't done anything and can't go anywhere. So Geoff, my pop, said he's go pick it up and he brought it round. This was prolly the coolest unveiling ever, well would have been way better if I could see right enough! So, on to the unveiling!! That's a very cool watch box and the matching carbon and Ti cuff links were a nice touch! Hope you like!! Sixx.

Wouldn't any watch be a pilots watch on the wrist of a pilot

Nice looking build with top notch parts!

Not had this one out for a while..............

Watches come with good lume these days!

If you google Rolex tridor and click on images, there are lots of photos of watches that look just like the last photo the tri-color center links. so after seeing those photos, i believe the last photo is a photo of a genuine, buit it's not the same watch as pictured in those first crappy photos. the watch in the last photo is listed on a website http://market.watchprosite.com/?show=collection.detail&id=38961&brandview=Rolex&mod=&series=+Tridor*+Tridor the seller is in Mexico. So sir, my question to you is why put up a photo of a completely unrelated watch that belongs to a seller who is in Mexico. A watch that bears no resemblence to the one in the first blurry, out of focus photos? Are you just playing games, or do you want help. i would advise you to come back with better photos if you want anyone here to help you, and if you post photos of watches that you have lifted from someone else's sales site, i would think that common courtesy should dicatate that you acknowledge that these are photos for comparison purposes and not better images of your friends watch.

At the gates and Dark Tranquillity are both incredible bands, those Scandinavians sure know how to rock! Absolutely mate, Metal for life! Im just rocking out to Whitechapel's new album while making a strap for a customer, lifes good!

Good news......I got an email from him last night........I'll try and share with him everyone's concern.

regarding tachy ... im going to making a new custom colour to gen .. and reprint tachy numbers

Thanks guys. Overall it's a pretty critical review. I'm sure those who own the gen and have lived with it would point out a few more things I left out. I don't want to put people off the watches, they are great, but these days people seem to want a very critical breakdown of even the best reps. So I went with that.... It's a difficult watch to review, you could do several reviews of this...vs gen, vs old V5/UPO, 45mm vs 42mm, also Vs general higher end rep quality (AP diver, Laureus Ingy etc). Some things look much more pronounced in pics than on the wrist (e.g. red numerals looks almost dirty at times, this only comes across in blown up pics!, Movement looks a bit shoddy but it is really great when just viewing the watch.) It was mentioned a couple of times but it just shows how the factories outsource and sub contract so many different parts from various suppliers we end up with things like good great AR on one and great lettering details the other . It's pretty clear some of the 42mm came from entirely different suppliers than the 45mm. Just to clarify on the clasp, the issue was with one watch, but even though the other two were fine they didn't leave me inspired, they are by no means bad clasps its just they fall down when compared to gen and some of the better rep bracelets of the past year. i.e. TC V3, noob explorer II latest (which is great!), JLC NSD etc...It's most certainly a better bracelet than the old PO bracelet, the endlinks and screwlinks alone make it a better bracelet. Also I've been wearing the 42mm on the old PO gen rubber for the past couple of days. It's really growing on me more and more and looks great. I think both watches are quality reps for the price and look really good on the wrist, I think they will sell really well if minor things like the AR on the 45mm is sorted out. They will probably sell really well anyway!

Congrats! It's a beautiful watch. I'm wearing mine right now. I don't mind at all if you (or anyone else) wants to posts pics. The more the better! When I am shopping around for a watch, I can't get enough reviews and photos. All the reviews, opinions, photos, suggestions, etc., are what I see as the power of this forum. Post away!

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