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Is the little brother welcome? Herzog Vintage Horse... Highly recommended for 59EUR on eBay. Great quality.. Buy the light one and tone it to your choice...

Hi Mate, Long time no see. Happy to see you back Nice watch by the way One of my favorites Regards Richard

Hellooo everyone First post here for sharing I am a regular on RWI, I will share my threads over here from there Introduction Today, I will be comparing a very common rep jubilee bracelet with a gen one. The rep jubilee bracelet is commonly seen on classic reps like Franken Datejust and Cartel GMT Master 1675. Sorry for the poor photo quality... my home lighting is crap for photo-takingWhat I will be comparing - Rep Jubilee bracelet (with generic rep '455' end links) = design appears to be based on the 62510h bracelet. Sourced from riyi002 - Gen Jubilee bracelet (with gen 555b end links) = Rolex 62510h bracelet (O serial = 1990, very new condition with tight links) - Both bracelets have solid links (and they are not the folded jubilee type of bracelet - i.e. 6251h) For all of the pictures... - G = genuine - R = replica Visual comparison At first glance, the genuine bracelet is much shinier and whiter looking than the replica one (i.e. better polished). The coronet on the genuine bracelet's clasp is much more detailed - you can see how the coronet is really 3D-looking. By comparison, the replica bracelet's clasp coronet is very flat and lacks detail. The photos doesn't show how much shinier and better-polished the gen bracelet is because of poor lighting, but I can guarantee that the gen bracelet is better in these aspects. When the clasps are opened, notice how there is much more stamping detail done on the genuine bracelet's clasp coronet (the arrows)When the clasp is closed, here are some visual differences: 1. The underside of the genuine bracelet's jubilee links is completely flat and very smooth (i.e. no jagged feeling - very comfortable when worn). The replica bracelet on the other hand has uneven underside jubilee links and the edges are sharp. 2. The genuine bracelet is stamped as '62510 H' whereas the replica bracelet reuses mass-manufactured clasp parts - so it uses a stamped '93250' part (which is incorrect). However, this can vary as I have seen replica jubilee bracelet that is correctly stamped as 62510H. 3. The replica bracelet's clasp is wider than the genuine one by 1-2mm approximately. You can also see from the arrows that the genuine bracelet is better polished (shinier and whiter looking) than the replica bracelet's duller finish. However, the most obvious flaw of the replica bracelet is there are only 6 micro-adjustable holes on the clasp - a lot of replica 20mm Rolex clasp (of this design) have this problem. By comparison, the genuine clasp has 7 micro-adjustable holes. It is also worth mentioning that the genuine bracelet's jubilee link screws sits flush and it is well polished, whereas the replica bracelet's jubilee link screws can sit uneven in its slot - some are flush and some aren't. End links: - A lot of replica end links are stamped as '455b' regardless if it is for two-tone/stainless steel and oyster/jubilee - this can be wrong/inaccurate - Genuine end links are stamped appropriately to their configuration/model (e.g. 502T end links are for non-lug hole Rolex, etc etc). My particular genuine end link is 555B and it is designed for the early 16200 Datejust series with lug holes - When genuine and replica end links are installed into a Rolex, they both look the same externally The genuine end link has longer tube for guiding the spring bar and it is well polished/finished on the inside. The replica end link has shorter tubes for guiding the spring bar and it is unfinished on the inside (very rough-looking)The feeling of the bracelets when worn - Gen bracelet feels very comfortable as the jubilee links are polished without jagged edges. Also, the links are tighter so the bracelet feels like it naturally wraps around the wearer's hand. But bear in mind that my genuine jubilee bracelet's condition is extremely new - a lot of second jubilee bracelets out there are quite worn and stretched badly. - Rep bracelet feels a bit rough when worn because of the jagged edges on the jubilee link (as the finishing isn't as good as the genuine bracelet, but it is still comfortable). The replica bracelet makes a lot more rattling noise than the genuine bracelet because the links are not as tight.

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One is Phong's, the other I don't know: http://www.ebay.com/itm/6240-6241-6263-Bakelite-Bezel-for-Vintage-Daytona-Mark-2-/182227570752?hash=item2a6d9c1040 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bakelite-Bezel-6263-6241-/253028330941?hash=item3ae9a9edbd

Richard!!!!!!! Indeed great to see you my friend. One of my first reps ever was purchased from Richard. And thanks, all. I'm trying to find the "bug" again.

Aaaawwww... I had a Superfranken that didn't look as good as your Rep...amazing!

I have several Seamaster Chronos, both gen and rep. These are very close to gen out of the box. Great to see By-Tor posting again. I read many of your reviews with great interest.

Totally agree!!!!!!!!! i purchased my first replica in 2004 with endless thanks to my fellow forum member Automatico who helped me as a I was very ignorant about this whole new world that has given me many years of pleasure. i bought my first blue sunburst submariner and a couple of Bond omegas for my brother and late father that have been true workhorses having experienced the worst sort of punishment imaginable and are still ticking fine!!!!!! There has been so much controversial discussions over the years where these quiet ticking heroes have been labelled as junk by all sorts, but from my experience they can be the best secret in town!!!! Sure enough the quality control can be an issue, but then again I have purchased new quality licensed products that have also been duds!!! I wished every area of life had a world like this hobby!!!! Keep enjoying to good health!!!!

I love SMP models gen or rep, and it's good to see you posting again?

This is probably one of the hardest dials to get right... Very subtle. And the silver sunburst is absolutely unforgiving as every small printing detail shows. If there's a flaw, you'll see it like an apple tree in the desert ! Usual specs here. ST19 case, Athaya crown, Vietnam dial and insert, gen coronet and T21... A great late 70's classic !!! A statement really.

Wow!!! Great I really like it. I would like to have...Is it possible? Thanks Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I as well am grateful, awesome job with sharing your builds! The temptation is too great I think I'm going to have to start my own Daytona project! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk

Hallelujah. After salivating over your recent Daytona builds, I was going to send you a 'how to?' mail myself. Thanks for sharing the knowledge. Simply AWESOME!!!

Nice comparison tks for sharing ..[mention=43268]rolojack[/mention] I have a doubt about the diameter of case and bezel of this rep..because I have read that the cartel is 38mm but the genuine was little maybe 37 ?

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If anybody wants to order any of these, PM me.

Nice work. Always good to salvage a vintage Rolex part.