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The only disapointment are the stick on plates on the bridges, shame

@ Johnboy777 was it this one you were looking at

Davidsen molnija 3646

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You might find that these are no longer available - they now come with either ETA or CN 6497 movts. The molnija is a copy of the Cortebert 616 which did not have shock protection so can break if dropped, but the Molnija does have shock protection so that should not be a problem unless dropped very heavily from the top of a tall building or it's owned by Nanuq!!!

Stem replacement is an absolute nightmare on these as the clutch lever in the keyless works slips out of engagement with the clutch and means you have to have the patience of a saint when putting back together.

I think i must have had an old one then as there was no protection on it, i replaced it with a vintage movement from a pocket watch, £10 from ebay, the seller stated that it had been serviced and timed, and it works a treat, it has the old style screwed balence that looks better in a vintage style watch but i have not transfered the bridges over as i dont want to break it. I think it realy is a good copy of the old Cortebert just a few curves wrong but looks good in my eyes.

Because a couple of extra bucks doubles the production costs.

@ PugwashVery true

we also have to think that we have been asking for different models, and if they have been listening to us look at what we have on sale now, it was not long ago we asked for the chronomat and look what we have, I asked about the Railmaster XXL and we have it (just a shame about the bridges) only thing putting me off. So we asked for variation and we are getting it.

I have just read the attached link sent in answer to your question, the one point it noted was the lack of any shock protection on the 3406 movement that is found in the watches you are talking about. I have one of these pans with the russian movement, i dropped it and it broke, but a new movement was easy to find and to replace. The quality of the bridges feels very good and the engraving makes it look authentic (although a little to clean) I have seen these movments with stick on plates that dont look as good. If you are thinking of getting one please do as long as you dont drop it on to a tiled floor from 6 foot away it should be fine. Other people have said they arive dirty or not oiled but so do many other movements, just get it serviced and cleaned.

I hope this helps, enjoy that vintage pan i know i do.

Can anyone tell me if this XXL has a screw down crown as joshes site lists it as

Material : 1 piece forged case construction, solid 316 stainless steel

Back : Display Caseback with detailed engraving on case rim.

Crown : One-piece Pull out crown with o ring

Crystal: Synthetic Crystal front and back

Water-resistant

I am so tempted but would like to know about the crown, i am sure the gen has screw down, Am i right TTK?

Just like the Aqua Terra bands i have the pins and sleave is a great method, but will only work on the right strap with the right pins and sleaves other wise it would be to loose. They provide great mobility and lots of strenth.

Perhaps "poor" monetarily, but you'll be a rich man for all the good you've wrought in this world. I owe you a debt of gratitude because you've been there and done that... so I don't have to.

Thank you.

Thank you for the thought.

Just a thought for all this sat at 11am in UK there will be a 2 min silence for all soldiers and there will be services of rememberance all over on sunday.

Joined the Army at 16

Still in the Army at 36

11 op tours,

looking to retire in 4 years and be poor

I know what i think, but would be interested to hear some our experts oppinions, but what else are you going to do on a long flight? Stuardess's are not as free to please as they once were.

A point i would like to add (as unqualified in the presant company i am) stainless steel is less magnetic than non stainless, (depends on the grade of stainless) is the foil is non magnetic than the crown underneath then it would seem the factory was wrapping cheeper crowns with good stainless, lets not forget that this was the time that rolex was still making folded link bracelets, and who would buy a watch with a folded link bracelets today!

i would like to know the results of this experiment.

It could be a white gold wrap ?????? LOL

Please don't flame too hard if this is a dumb question:

I have two reps with ETA movements. I fly a lot and have to set my watches often, ususally one hour back or forward.

Is it OK to turn the hands counterclockwise when setting an ETA watch? Can it cause damage?

I would say this is a bad idea, i aways wind forward, i know it is a pain with the date having to wind a month minus a day forward and wind it on to get the date change and time right but that would be a good cause to a GMT so that you ncan indipendantly set the gmt hand to where you are and leave the main hands on your home time.

no no 7750?

IMPOSSIBLE to build a center second and a power reserve on a 7750

also problem with date wheel... date wheel on 7750 is to closed

OK just a thought

The last I heard was that an attempt was being made to use an ETA 7753 with a power module and that the project has been shelved untill after the new year?

Anyone else?

Can any of the dealers shed any light on this subject at all???

I dont know, just for instance it is based on a 7750 or what ever the new movement is called, it is only a center seconds and a power reserve modual, they work on some of the pams dont they with 7750 based works???

Sorry not saying they should rep the iwc movement, just mod another. I am no expert but i think a 7750 would be the best start point.

asia 7750?

with power reserve at 3?

hmmmmmmm

7750 with date or gmt fuction on 3 o´clock exist (look chronoswiss), but power reserve?

Maybe a watch without working power reserve??? That is possible

On TRC it did say working PR, from and enginering point of view any thing is possible, but will it work for long we know the swiss can do it so why cant the chinese?

genuine has 38mm automatic movement?

which eta movement will used this watch? All eta automatic movements are 26mm and to small???

only unitas 6497 is possible but diffucult

it is possible to build a power reserve and a date in unitas (with module)... but i can´t belive it will be realized???

maybe they´ll used a asia movement?

What about a 7750 asia is that not large enough and alow the seconds at 9 (might need spacing out a touch) and a PR modual, on trc the person who was supplying the info spoke about a PR of 4 days is this possible??

There is a similar thread on TRC but nothing new since sept 9, i would love to see this one out before xmas

Already gone!

Well that saves someone geting scammed, i just wish i could contact the highest bidder and show him where he could get the same for $139, oh well

Send me the watch and I'll photograph it

I would if i could get it off my wrist, but it is like a magnet, have had it on for a month away, come home swap watches and a day later i look down and it is back on there. It realy is that good, got it from josh if you are interested.

how ever the best phot i could find was on trustys site, take you pick, have a look at the middle photo close up of the works, it realy is fantastic.trustys railmaster

PS sorry for hijacking the thread.

I just wish that i had the photo skills of Pug or TTK so i could show you the works in my railmaster, full perlage fantastily clean, keeps almost perfect time (-1 sec per day now) nickle plated. I doupt that is was shipped to Shitinerand for finishing and then back to china to be installed. I aslo doupt that the factorys buy from otto frie to install a better looking movement. I realy belive that all of these are made in china and am happy with that, and even happier when people talk about there gen breitling or tag being better because it has a swiss works! made in china, they realy refuse to belive that when i tell them. The same realy about porche 4x4 owners with there German car (made in the Chech republic) So lets raise a glass to the swinese or chiss watch factorys who make us happy.

Andy

Someone wants to make money some will use the word SWISS to get the price up unfortunately sometimes a seller does not know much about movements and how to tell one movement from the other...

A point in note with the seagull 2892 copy being sold in watches as an ETA2892, nothing wrong with the movement (pictures earlyer in theis thread) i have one reliable keeps good time but it is not an ETA, it took a bit of education on my part before i realised this. When i see these works being described as ETA it is annoying i would much rather see it described at a seagull even at the same price, it is a great movement!

I have tried to contact the highest bidder but ebay blocks messages now oh well

it makes me thinkthat the factorys makin our reps must be also making cases for invita, and many others, but what comes first, does the factory make the rep case on the side and then offers it to the corperate customers, or did invicta ask for the case to be made and the rep side line fell out of that. It wiould be funny to think that the rep market is driving the gen heritage rip off side.