It appears that the ultimate 232 is DSN's dial, hands with Cartel's case, caseback, crystal, and crown. Anyone have any pictures side by side of cartel's case vs DSN's? I looked at both of the sites side by side and I "think" I see a difference (cartel being more square), but I can't tell if i am letting my prior knowledge fool me. Basically I am debating if I should get the DSN out of the box or commission an "ultimate". I do see differences in the caseback though and the crown does look more straight.
Thanks, pdnb