nakortheblue

Thanks for the feedback. Looks like the black dial will be less of a tell. I think dial reluming will eliminate the grey lume issue.

To white dial rubberclad owners, how accurate is the sub dial color to the gen? The photos on the dealers' sites show a darker grey than the photos of the gen. I'm trying to decide between the black and white dial rubberclad. I like the contrast of the white dial but I'm not too sure about the sub dial color.

http://forums.watchnet.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=364623&rid=0

i personally find it too blue

pearl for which watch?

i bought a pre-owned gen rubber from someone on tz. i doesn't actually look different but somehow it feels different on the wrist. also the non-floating keeper on the rep strap doesn't stay in one place vs the gen strap which makes the rep strap a pain to take off and put on.

Thanks for the great info, watchdog. Just wondering, do they fall into the category of modified movements that you will not service?

Anyone with experience? Is the A7750 GMT as reliable as the ETA2824-GMT-ICHS? Or will it be as problematic as the ETA2824-GMT-CHS? I'm thinking of getting a GMT PAM. Thanks for looking.

most of them should have it

Thinking of upgrading my noobmariner while waiting for the wm9 v2 sub. I read that jewelry outlet bezel inserts are the best for this but I couldn't locate jewelry outlet. However, I read that jewelry outlet and wholesaleoutlet on the bay are the same thing. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks, R

Thinking of trying a MBW/MBK 1680 next if I can get my hands on the old-style one. Is the PMWF bezel insert and watchmaterial.com pearl the best aftermarket combination for the 1680? Thanks, R

Just came across this... most likely from the same country that makes most of our watches...

here's some more...

updated with a note and quote from the dealer for the benefit of future mbw/mbk buyers.

thanks, i've just ordered a pair.

thanks, almost jumped the gun there.

i've found this springbar, FB-7895, at ofrei. is this the one to use on the 1665?

yup, it's the pmwf flat metal ring that did not fit. the mbk one did, though.

i saw this at watcheden and emailed them about the indice color. sarah replied that they are black. what do you guys think? thanks for looking, R

i didn't think so either but it was past midnight and i was getting a tad frustrated. (i have limited time for my amateur watchmaking endeavors as i have a 9mo son who likes to go to bed late...) i have a case/crystal press but didn't think to use it. on hindsight, it was a good idea as i might have killed some of the nylon dies.

happily cuong from ofrei replied to say they will ship the pearl... the pmwf bezel washer did not fit and was a little larger than the mbk one. the bezel turns when i push it down otherwise it is quite difficult. i don't think that it should be able to move freely as this is a dive watch that needs to keep the time spent underwater otherwise any small force will change the pearl position. incidentally, i had a gen 14060m which also required to be pushed down before being able to turn it easily. i spoke to a rep at the service center and he said that is the way it was built. i guess it is for the aforementioned reason.

my dealer ordered an MBW/MBK 1665 for me in Feb and I finally had time to play with it last weekend. see the markings on it. 5790188 1665 i had previously ordered a clarks t39 and a pmwf bezel insert. also ordered a illumines pearl (lume dots on the invoice) from ofrei but they shipped me dial dots instead... *sigh* so i took out the movement and removed the bezel. the retaining ring came off easily enough using a blade and i could pop off the original crystal with my thumbs. this is where the fun began... i had previously read about mcdj's experience on RG here and i think my experience mirrored his. the clarks crystal was a tight fit and i had to brute force it to fit and i saw the white shavings at the sides of the crystal that mcdj saw. i took awhile but i was more or less fitted in. i think it will require a crystal press to remove... not sure that it will be intact, though. next up was the retaining ring... this was the real nightmare... it wouldn't go in nicely and in the end, i had to use a pair of pliers to clamp it in. i'm happy to report that the crystal did not crack although the retaining ring and the case was somewhat scarred but hey, this is a vintage rep right? right... well, next up was the bezel insert and that was a breeze compared to the crystal and retaining ring, although i must say that the insert seemed to be a tad too large and kept popping out at first. in general, the dimensions of the parts of this MBW/MBK 1665 seems to be smaller than it should be. i kept the mbk pearl and installed it onto the insert since ofrei screwed up my order. well, see below for the finished product. (sorry for the quality, no lightbox...) can i be lazy and shave the CG with cape cod? also, from cat's post here, it seems that the lugholes are 2mm? maybe, i'll get some aftermarket rolex-type springbars to try. which ones do i order from ofrei? ta-dah! i think... update for future MBW/MBK buyers: i had a chat with the dealer (chris, eurotimez) on this and have his permission to quote him on this. bear in mind that i'm not blaming chris for this or anything... i just happened to have ordered during this transition period. i don't want this to become a dealer-flaming thread. from chris: "I mentioned that dealers just offer what the clients wants and I wasn't aware of the 5513/1680 vs the 1680/1680 difference, as I don't mod the watches I just deliver as they come (provided with QC). Also I can get from MBK whatever I want as we have good connection, but you'd have to be specific, if you say get me an MBK 1680 and I get you an MBK 1680, than is it my fault that MBK changed the design that I as a dealer am not aware of. Again I don't disemble the complete watch, and neither do I test every single piece that I ship out if gen-parts fit or not... that is not what I do... I think you'd understand. I asked MBK and I can get if you want 5513 cases 1680 old style... can get whatever you want, if MBK provided MBK has it in stock. I deal directly with the boss so it's no problem." my understanding is that the old style may still be available so newcomers like me may still have a decent chance to get an "original" MBW/MBK vintage rollie. maybe i'll try a 1680 or 5513 next. thanks for looking, R

thanks, i'm going to get one.

got the Bergeon 5970 Nine Piece Screwdriver Set with Rotating Stand from ofrei. on removing the screw off the rotor, the screw stuck onto the screwdriver tip. it doesn't stick on the tweezers so it should be the screwdriver tip that is magnetic. do i need to get a demagitizer now? thanks, R

Just curious, does this mean that watches that don't get used will not gum up do fast? I'm asking because someone selling watchwinders claimed that watchwinders extend the life of the watch.