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Would you mind shipping my watches between one chitchat and the next one, TTK? (Out of joke [joke?!?] glad to see you are better)

Btw, nice mesencephalus you have there Pug! At least, better than that Gollum... (why quoting Andy and speaking to Pug?.. just in the spirit of the thread)

I have to say that I found VB's synthesis enlightening. Unfortunately my education is far from history, and to me a summary that kind provides a very useful framework where to insert further probing if one wants. It also has a merit not to make unlearned members like me.

Great news! Congrats to both you -- and all we forum members as well. Please go easy on us.

Quite easy to be popular (among specialists at least) when one is a genius in disciplines like physics or molecular byology / biochemistry. Much harder to become popular with common people after telling some very uneasy truths like the selfish gene and the extended phenotype. It's not by chance that Dawkins made the anti-darwinist lobbies much more furious than Wilkins, and that he is currently spending almost all his time now (that is a real shame) rejecting their critics. As you encountered him, to you too. Personally, I would give an eye to have a talk with him.

You may espect excellent results, archibald. Have a look here. Btw, thanks for the excellent 050/051 review!

Try and have a look here: http://www.cousinsuk.com/default.aspx?disp...oductgroupid=94

the sharpest mind of this (and last) century! If he is making big money, I am nothing but glad.

Amateurs.

Yes Victoria, you got it perfectly. I was not especially using 'fascist-enthusiast' in its political meaning (which I suppose is the first to get perceived by American people*), rather in its historical meaning. *yes, yes, I know you are not American I am all but a commie, and I feel the greatest respect to the men of XaMas -- as a matter of fact I even had to defend them on RWG I some time ago, maybe that post got lost in the 6-months RWG I lobothomy. In the Alessiandria rush they managed to sink the biggest amount of enemy Navy tons at the smallest expense of human lives (and I am sorry for your dad's uncle). But that is an entirely different matter from wearing on one's wrist a skull-and-rose-and-slogan watch in 2007. I would be very curious to know how many people who will actually buy that watch would have the balls to behave today like the Alessandria frogmen did. "Paolo Di Canio"? Uhm, on your pic I suppose he is a soccer player. And on his gesture yes, I also suppose he would get placed quite right on the political compass Considering that soccer players use to have big money and low taste then yes, I definitely think he may be a target for that XaMas watch

People, what are you thinking?? That watch has NOTHING to do with present-day Italian Navy, you will never see one on their wrist. It's just a small house targeting a small number of old fashioned fascist-enthusiasts with decent bank accounts. Yes, just OP had the good taste of leaving it at the state of prototype...

It must be the first 24mm deployant ever made. Should you want to sell it, pls drop me a PM.

Ah, Victoria, Victoria... tsk tsk... that was all in my signature! I suppose you also missed the mp3 with the Panerai words, did you? Just, I can't help from forgiving a girl who got 1 Pam every 5 days of her staying here...

Thanks, Willith! Interesting, but...

Thanks for your clarification, Bob.

No problem, you are welcome!

No, the AR I told about was only on the inside of the crystal. Besides of being the only accurate AR on PAMs, the inside-only AR has the benefit of being a low-temperature treatment. So it can get performed on crystals that already have a cyclops on them. Higher temperature AR coating, like double-side AR, would make the cyclops' adhesive melt and the cyclops pop out. The inside-only AR actually coats the cyclops, and that is why it is so effective on the date, differently from the rest of the dial. Believe me, get your crystal w/watchmen or chieftang cyclops AR coated, you will get the best from your cyclops! I hope this makes sense, my English did not help.

I tried both them on a 104, and the watchmen cyclops looks perfect. NO distortion, good magnification (just a little lower than gen). I could not even believe how good it came out. But it is because the 104 has a small rehaut. This makes the chieftang cyclops a little underpowered on the 104, and the watchmen cyclops bringing no distortion. On a higher rehaut model like the 063 I would try the chieftang cyclops first, even if it is a little inaccurate in its diameter. Stay assured you will get very pleased with the results of (even) single-side AR on date readability!

Sorry RS, I have no such screws. I just may submit these screws to you: http://www.cousinsuk.com/default.aspx?disp...roductid=440171 They range up from 0.7mm, so, if you can guess the size from your last screw, I hope you might find something useful.

Those among you who tried a watchmen cyclops surely remember that, while its mag power was great, it suffered from light reflections that actually reduced the date readability in comparison with the attained magnification. The chieftang cyclops had less reflections, still not perfect. Those among you who tried [chieftang's] single-side AR coating (especially made for PAMs) surely noticed that single-side AR is far less effective than double-side AR, as reflection from the crystal's outer surface stays untouched with single-side AR, that is applied only to the inner surface of the crystal. This is an unavoidable issue with PAMs, as the gens are single-side AR coated as well. I got two PAM crystals AR coated in the chieftang's single-side AR run -- one with a watchmen cyclops, the other one with a chieftang cyclops. Well, on both them the AR effect on the cyclops reflection was stunning! The AR coat reduced the reflection down to about 10% on the watchmen cyclops, 5% on the chieftang cyclops. This makes sense, as reflections in cyclops are due to the light reflected from the crystal's inner surface and the datewheel. Differently from reflection from the crystal's outer surface, both those components are cut out by the single-side (inner side) AR coat. Now I am able to really enjoy the full mag power of those improved cyclopses! I plan to post pics as soon as I'll also have a certain DW sticker (kindly provided by a great RWG member here!) installed. These are Asian 21J watches, and I don't want to ruin the great effect of the AR coated cyclops with a bad date font.

I can't guarantee you will find the screw you need, but you may want to have a look here: http://www.cousinsuk.com/default.aspx?disp...oductgroupid=24 (especially look at the case back screws). But... 2mm diameter -- the threaded part?!? I would also try a better glue. Was it the two-components metal glue? That smelling like sulphur?

Yes Bob, we eagerly wait for your experience report. I can tell about PAMs only, but this site is definitely either a scam or a great deal: 147 @ $105!! -- And this is not even a gen pic, look at the pusher @8Hr! 212 @ $105!! 104 @ $99! 050 @ $102! Fiddy @ $103-105 140 @ $103 091-165 @ $102 164 @ $102 Etc... There are even pics of inaccurate models...

Really thanks to verbal for making clear issues I was very unsure about.

1. Yes. But I heard that 050 reps produced before 2006 were somewhat better than more recent ones. If that is true (what I am highly unsure of) then it should be a matter of microns in the boldness of numbers and markers, and in the date font. 2. To me, the 050 is the best out-of-the-box PAM rep (at least in its pre-2006 incarnation). If you want it perfect, a relume and a new AR coat are the only needed steps. I don't even feel that replacing the datewheel and/or cyclops is necessary. 3. The Zigmeister is your man. Just, if you want a perfect color, ask him to use a 3/4 C3 + 1/4 C1 mix. The Zigmeister usually goes with C3.

Well, Mario Paci is hold in the highest esteem by Italian Paneristi (on what I can see on their site at least) and PAM geeks like me, and he is completely unknown to anyone else.