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I'm ordering a standard black dial (not Newman)6265 from the Spinmaster. Going with at least the gen crystal/tube/crown mod, and maybe a wee more franken if he has anything laying around. I like the PN dial, but I think to rock it like it's gen the standard is a little more plausible. Given my age I could have easily bought the one I'm getting when it is was 10 years old for a grand in 81'. I did in fact own an Explorer back then that I bought for $1200 if I remember right. Given my job now, I could plausible buy a gen one tomorrow if I single. The PN is another thing. All that said, the chances of running into someone in the wild, even in a an AD, that would have seen enough of these to make any kind of reasonble guess that it's rep, with the gen parts on it mine will have, I don't know, one in a million. Of course pictures of this, and my incoming Abyss as well, to follow...... Thanks for those deatailed answers. Still lot's to learn, but feeling very solid the Spinmaster choice as a complete non tinkerer myself.

Done...would still like some insight into the movements etc.... equally interested in the 6265 as well.

I've read dozens of threads and dozens of sales posts going back years. Focusing on a 6263. I even bought the big "Vintage Rolex Sports Models" and the "Daytona Pocket Guide" from Amazon. It doesn't take long to triangulate on the names DK, Yuki and Spinmaster in the Daytona world. You see an occasionel Phong case etc...but these 3 seem to come up the most in discusions and sales of really good vintage Daytonas. DK describes his: Paul Newman A7750 Powered 6263 Watch. This watch is made with the same outer dimensions as our V72 based watches. Assymetrical screw-in pushers, triplock crown, tropic 19 replacement crystal, black bezel, stamped inside case back, Correct engravings between lugs, 571 endlinks, and 78350 hollow mid-link band with correctly stamped clasp. The watch is powered by an asian 7750 manual wind movement running at 21,600 BPH, the same as the original V72/Cal 727. Black or white color can be chosen instead of Paul Newman. Yuki decribes his: Rolex Daytona 6263 black dial watch, Carry with "Asia 727" hand winding chronograph Movement. Working in Order and Running accurate. Not guarantee water resistant for this case. Please note: The chronograph function record 30 minutes only. (3 and 9 o'clock chrono sub dial can work only) 6'clock chrono sub dial for style and appearance only, didn't have any function. Case diameter is 38mm without crown, Lug to Lug 19mm. With stainless steel bracelet. Typical SPinmaster discription: Spinmaster description on this beauty: 1. 21,600bph 7750 ----> 7760 movement overhauled by me 2. Correct asymmetrical pushers 3. reducing and reversing wheel removed (winding feels like manual movement now) 4. Hacking lever removed (gen 6263 does not hack) 5. better engraved caseback (used only in vj72 model) instead of usual laser etched caseback 6. correct numbering on bezel 7. all o-rings properly greased 8. endlinks nicely trimed, no more bend springbar 9. waterproof tested to 3 atm 10. movement properly regulated So it appears to me that DK and Yuki start with a manual wind movement, that doesn't operate the 6 o'clock subdial, although DK doesn't say that, to avoid the same problem that Spinmaster is fixing when he overhauls the movement, all those extra gears that tend to fail. I'm a little thrown off by the fact that DK still uses a A7750, which seems to be the one that has the problems. So my question is - do you just wait for a Spinmaster to come up. I haven't seen where you can just order one. Or given the choice of a Yuki vs. DK, is there a real difference in the movements. They both look great and obviously all 3 have great reputations. Also would be great to know if anyone has had them mod their watches before delivery, including gen parts. I'm certainly willing to spend a grand, or even a little more, on something really great/franken. Or am I missing a better alternative all together? advice appreciated

The best answer I could get from the guy that modded it is that the base watch, including the bracelet, is the best of 2 identical watches form the youtube seller "u got it". I think this one may be getting flipped. I have a pretty serious vintage build in mind.

Got my first of 3 subs incoming today. This one should be the best to start as it's already been heavily modded by RSH. Running an ETA 2836 and sporting RSH Mods: Shaved Crown Guards Watch Material Pearl Better Upgraded Insert BK Date Wheel Overlay Better Bracelet with best SEL's and Rebrushed Rehaut is perfectly aligned Still have a Noob ceramic and Josh Project X coming in. If I had to bet, the Noob gets kept and up graded, and the X gets flipped, but we'll see. The 2 I keep I plan on going deep on, if I'm confident they are both really solid bases. If not I'd rather sell them and wait for some really good Franken to come up. So, very interested in what you think, and what you do to take it the "ultimate" or at least really, really good level (it may already be really good). The seller was going to do a gen pearl next. I see alot of gen bezel insert and crown. Have at it. Having onwned 3 gens in the past, and been shopping lately at ADs, I can tell you has the right look and feel and you would have to ask someone to "examine" it, and they would have to really know what they were looking for, to think twice about it. I'm a noob in this world, but been reading like crazy, so it would be great if suggestions also suggested sources and who to do the work. I only trust myself to wind it and clean it. I would put a grand in each, if they're worth it. Collect up parts and ship one off and wear the other. thanks in advance.

Jay at Motor city watch works is the bead blasting man - about $85 for the head of my old Ecozilla

This could have been posted before but I just came across it. Just amazing. http://diving-watch.net/MY-COLLECTION-OF-DIVING-ROLEX Also amazing is the fact that one of the stories, clisck on each link on the left for each watch, talks about the watch being bought in 1959 for $245. That's about $1800 in 2009 dollars, but that watch costs just shy of 8k today, or 4x the adjusted dollars.

I'm sure some of the gurus could recite this info from memory, but I thought it was very cool. http://forums.watchuseek.com/f23/rolex-submariner-generations-493354.html

If you have any questions about KBs feel free to contact me - I'm one of the original SRKCs and have trined Navy SEALS with Pavel. Quoted in a couple of his books. I don' train people for $$, just offering my experience.

Thanks - I eventually found this thru the dealers area - ordered it, the Sub Series 1 -pics to follow.

Looks like a TZ rating of 90% at best - anything over $75 is crazy.

Thanks guys! I already Platinumed my membership and lost out on a BK Sub I was going to buy too late last night. I guess I'm all in.

Love this show. almost as good as Rome, but even hotter. My wife loves it too, even better

Long time watch guy but new to here. Back in the day had a few Rolexes, sold for various reasons, got out of watches for years and got back in about a year ago. I've been toying with picking up a Sub but the more I know about watches, and the more I can afford it, the less I wanted to spend 7k. Played flippy with a bunch of watches over the last year but just let most of them go and came here. I've had a great PAM rep that my buddy at Tourneau thought was real, pure luck ordering online, and a Rolex that I just threw away it was so bad. Tired of guessing. I think I blew the rule about lurking before contacting members and posting, trying to find if there was a Project X replica. Oh well, hopefully I can retroactively redeem. I want me one of those Noob Ceramics though - for sure.

Looking for something as close as possible to this one, anyone making a really good one?