JimmyGee

Thanks Watchmeister, but this one is miles above my head! :-)

Thank you, will do.

Ciao, Non ho capito: "ps : I just checked with Jewlery&watch, minute subdial on PN dials look better than a few weeks" Potete scrivere prego questo commento in italiano? grazie.

Thank you. I'm a Newb,so appreciate all the help I can get. I understood that you said it was not a PN Dial and I'm sure it will be something "special" just the same. Looking forward to seeing it, so I can learn some more. :-)

Sorry, I'm a Newb, so thanks for putting me straight regarding Re-Posting the Pictures. I will need to learn how to do that. I'll see if I can find out somewhere, as I don't always want my hand to be held. It's good for me to do my own research and haven't I learned a lot from you Guys sharing your knowledge!!!! Very Grateful. Thank You. Part 2. It didn't take me long at all to learn how not to Re-Post Photos needlessly. Now I just have to learn how to add smiles as when I drag them over, all I get is: http://www.rwgforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/thumbsupsmileyanim.gif

Thank you, Yes! I see the difference. Also, thank you for your time and effort to explain. What I am still confused about is: Model 6239, SS, Pump Pushers, RC (not ROC): Should the Minute Markers be: "White on Black" or "Red on Black"? Every time I look at this model, the dial has either: "White on Black" or "Red on Black"? Which is correct? Congratulation for your Book. Ciao

Come on my friend. Show us a picture of your dial???? :-)

Thank you for sharing you knowledge. I can read a few Latin based languages, including Italian, but I only write in English. Is the Italian book "Rolex Daytona, a legend is born" written in Italian or English? Can you please tell us what the "mistake" is, or do we have to buy the book. : - ) Ciao

Thank you freddy333. Things look so obvious after being shown :-) What would I do without you Guys? Truly Grateful.

LHOOQ, Once again, thank you very much for your valuable information. I will get in touch with David to see if I can get the dial you are talking about. I hope he has it and that Domi has not yet started work on my watch, so that I can have the correct dial fitted. If David does not have stock at the moment, it's not the end of the world. I will wait. I don't understand what a "ROC dial" means, but do understand that it's the dial I have pictured. Thank you for your praise of David and I can assure you that I don't have a problem with him. I'm also happy that you don't think my dial to be "disastrous" and I will wear it with pride. I will search for the other dials that you mention. Regarding the Indonesia eBay item: Does he list it as "PN Daytona" or some other name? Is it just the dial or is it the watch for ~$150? I'm hooked, :-) so I'm sure, that in the near future I will look for the $1000-1500 dials. Learning and making mistakes is part of the fun of researching and buying Reps. Thank You. Part 2. Hi LHOOQ, I have found the guy from eBay, Indonesia you talk about, thank you. The Bidding starts at US$144 (something to do with Singer, which I will research to find out what it means. Maybe Singer were making dials for Rolex? I'll try Google) :-) Have spoken to David and he is selling me a 6239, and an extra dial for only US$50. I'm sure the low price is because I bought the "ROC dial" by mistake. He is a good guy and now I'm looking for an Albino 6239. Sending the extra dial to Domi to have fitted, so in theory, I should end up with 2 identical looking 6239's. One with an Asian Movement and one a Swiss Movement. Better two than none, so I'm happy :-) Thank You, J

freddy333, Fantastic, Fantastic, Fantastic. Thank you oh so much for posting the picture. I am grinning from ear to ear, because you have put me out of my misery. :-)

Thank you LHOOQ, It's obvious that I don't know what I'm talking about and my headache is getting worse (LOL) just trying to get my head around all these models and variations :-) Someone may put me out of my misery and post a picture of the Model that PN's wife bought him? That's the one I would really like. Can't afford a Gen second hand but a nice rep would be great. I probably would be the one walking down the street with a Loupe in my eye admiring my Genuine, Replica Look Alike. I really appreciate your help and insight and I will try my best to learn a thing or two. Cheers, Jimmy. PS: Gee, I'm dumb: I just got your joke:(Hint: It doesn't mean an extra-thick dial!) LOL Part 2. The watch that David Wong sold me has a Steel Bezel and Pump Pushers. Thus suggesting it is a 6239. It was being sold on the Bay with a dial that said: Shear Time, Chronography, & No Daytona over the Sub Dial. Small Square White on Black: 5, 10, 15, etc, Minute Markers,with Short White on Black Minute Markers. I bought the watch and asked if he had a PN Daytona Dial. He said yes, for another US$130. He showed me the photo and being a Newbie I agreed to the dial I posted above. I have just searched the Internet for Genuine PN Models to look at and the dial on the one on the Bay albeit with Shear Time rather than Rolex on the Dial, looks closer to the dial on the Gen 6239 I saw on the 'net tonight. Having agreed to spend a further 300 Euro's + to have the Asia Movement replaced with a Swiss Manual Movement and the "above" posted dial replace the Original leaves me .... with a sour taste. To think I started the evening thinking I would do a fellow member a good turn and show him a DW PN he requested to see. Oh well, live and learn. I'll search the internet for the closest Rep I can find to a Gen 6239 and have a go at replacing the dial myself.

As I said: this dial is NOT perfect and I'm not a Rolex expert. So I should take it out with David Wong? LOL I just uploaded the photo to help someone out, who wanted to see a David Wong PN Dial. Anyway as I said: I'm "cheap" so would have rather spent $130 than $1800. I don't see too many people walking around the streets with a Loupe stuck in their eye? ;-) There are many false PN dials. If we are taking about the same Model Genuine PN, "first" bought for Paul Newman by his wife, then these watches are selling, second hand (once every blue moon)for at least US125,000. No way can I see a Genuine Dial from this first issue selling for $1800. Maybe an exact copy, but not the real dial. Why would anyone want to take out the dial from a quarter of a million dollar watch and sell the dial for $1800? I'm into big chunky watches because my eyesight is too bad to enjoy a 38mm watch and I can't see the details anyway. :-) To each their own. Enjoy your Dial. Oh! It would be great to see a photo of your Dial so that I know what to look for next time. Thank You

Hello, This is what a David Wong PN Dial looks like. I paid $130.00 for it only a month ago. I sent him a coded message through the Bay. The dial and watch are with Domi, who is inserting the dial and also replacing the Asian Movement with a Swiss Manual movement. The Bezel should be silver with black writing and not black with white writing. The DW dial is not 100% correct. It should not have the word "Oyster" to start with. Other than that, I can't help much as I'm not not even close to being a Rolex expert. I need to add that the dial is so small, that you would only be able to see the slight imperfections with a loupe. I would rather pay US$130 than US$8K, but that's just me: "cheap" :-) Anyway, if anyone got that close to my Rep Daytona, I would bite them on the ear. LOL

Thank You PeteM, You always come to my rescue. I hope one day I might be a useful Member.

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I know that this is months old, so I hope I'm not breaking any rules. Where does one buy: "thick silicone grease"? please, and do you have a brand name? I'm in the UK, if that makes a difference. Thank You.

Thank you Sidney, The Pam 386 is a really nice watch, but I made a mistake on my Subject Heading and forgot to write "2". The watch I mean is Pam 382. Sorry. I don't know how to change the Heading

WOW, Thanks so much all of you for your advice, photos and information. Your certainly have given me food for thought. All your bronze watches look great and I certainly will look into them. Well, it looks like I can forget about a Gen PAM Bronzo, so I hope a replica is soon in the making. Thank you all very much.

Looks very nice to me. Congratulations. Enjoy it. I have a Gen 312, but would like a Rep to knock around in. I don't have a very good eye to spot differences. As long as it says: Panerai, Marina Militare, etc. I am happy.

Thank You. I have added one to my cart at puretimewatch. Will get the 312 and one of the GMT's :-)

Yes, that is the Watch. If the Gen is not going to be out for six months, then that will give me time to save and not upset my wife? In time I will trade her in for the Bronzo. LOL I hope others like it, and that it can be replicated. With the green dial and the bronze turning green in years to come, it's going to be an outstanding Watch. Thank you for your advice.

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Hi All, I hope this is the right place to ask my question? Sorry if it's not. I love the PAM00382 aka Bronzo. I would even consider buying a Gen, but before I do, would like to ask if anyone thinks that this model will ever be Replicated? Would the Bronze Casing make it hard to replicate? I have to have one of these even if I have to sell my Gen 312 and (just about) all my Reps. While I'm at it; does anyone know the Price of the Gen in the UK? I know what is it in the US, but don't want to be hit with all the import duty, so I hope to get a Gen in the UK or EU. But would prefer a Good Rep, so that I can keep my present collection. Thank you in advance, Jimmy Gee