looks like it's gonna be a waiting game on which model will be released first
pam 005 h version was initially to be released aug 8-10 but no word yet
not sure then if aug 25 will be really for pam 005 noob
thanks
i heard that h factory will release pam 005m at the same time that noob factory will release also v2 pam 005m
confused now as to which one to get...