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I’m kind of okay with a chrono function that isn’t reliable on a $500 rep. On a watch that cost $15000 and up, it seems a bit more of an issue. I wish the rep makers would address the date window location, I did hear a rumour about new improved models. Do you know anything about that [mention=39943]Legend[/mention]
Hey P
Even the chrono on the gen APs isn’t reliable. Common problems are: not resetting to 0, chrono not running smooth and chrono causing the movement to seize up. This on a gen. So whatever improvements they do on a rep, I doubt that they can surpass this even using stacked Swiss chronograph movements like the LWO.
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On 10/9/2018 at 11:47 AM, Kastro said:
Ahh I looked up the 42mm scuba model and i found out that it was usually mistaken as a 44mm, maybe thats where I saw 44mm in some article(cant find it now).
Regarding the chrono ROOs since the secs@12 is pretty bad in the A7750 movement, is there a way to go about making it more reliable via mods? So far the issue with the A7750 movement with the ROO chronos are the only thing putting me off them.
Thanks for a butt load of info! Huat ah 🙊
Ayeeee truly a legend 😍
I doubt there was ever a 44mm diver. There are 42mm ROOs and divers, 44mm ROOs, and 48mm ROOs (T3/Legacy/Shaq). The Royal oaks come in sizes of 33, 37, 39 and 41mm.
The A7750 sec@12 movement has been improved for the recent batches, and the key issue is friction. A proper service and swiss mainspring replacement will alleviate the friction issue and make the movement run a lot more reliably. One key to remember is to leave the chrono function well alone. Even for genuine AP calibers and LWO movements, the chrono function is not perfectly reliable. So if you are willing to treat the chrono and subdials as perfunctory decorations and avoid using the chrono, you have a much higher chance of having a watch with a long and healthy lifespan after a service. I do not even touch the chrono function on my gen ROOs. Trust me, even on the gen, the chrono function does not have sure-fire reliability.
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Hello and to answer your questions
1. For ROOs (both 42 and 44mm), look for JF made ones. For the FC or ceramic divers specifically, look for XF v2. For the stainless steel diver, I think that the best one is still the JF v7.
2. For differences, you need to do some research, but I have summarized your purchase decisions above.
3. The 42mm ROO is a bulky watch to wear due to the case design and also the lug angle. But you alone can decide what wears big and what wears small.
4. To my knowledge, there has been no 44mm diver produced. Even the old scuba model 15340ST was 42mm. If you do know of a 44mm, please share with the group, we can all learn something new.
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Oh I don’t wear them except for photo taking. They’re kept for my collection. I’m a gen AP guy mostly.
I do understand that you have a gen 116520 mate and you’re pedantic about the thickness difference and I think it’s always feedback like that which helps us improve our watches in various ways. Now I’ve to find some way to thin the rep lol.
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[mention=83395]Jxwatch[/mention] I have a gen 116520 and compare it all the time otherwise it wouldn't bother me. Once you see it you cant un see it. I know its me
Hey L
I own gens of both the black and white 116500LN and I didn’t notice the thickness difference lol. I guess it boils down to what bothers us. I think jxwatch owns a gen 116520 too.
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On 10/2/2018 at 12:02 AM, lcsrep11 said:
@Legend it’s 13mm gen is 12.2 I’ve had my gen side by side with an arf and you can see the difference the caseback is a different shape the recess is bigger. I read a few other people used a slimmer caseback after having the deco plate removed and normal rotor added. Just wondered if you could do that ? If it can be done I’d rather do it as it’s one of those things once you’ve seen you can’t un see. Picky I know but can’t help it lol
OK yes my bad, I did not notice the difference in thickness when I worked on the watch.
Yes the caseback can likely be thinned accordingly I think. Thank you for the heads up!
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[mention=83395]Jxwatch[/mention] Perfect thats more than enough for a splash in the pool on holiday.
[mention=39943]Legend[/mention] Perfect thanks. Out of interest whats the best mod to reduce the thickness of the ARF daytona ?
The ARF Daytona comes with gen like thickness already due to the modified A7750 movement (partially working chrono) so there’s no need to thin it. Jxwatch’s watch wasn’t thinned and it was not necessary to do so.
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This looks great! Question regarding waterproofing is 5 / 6 ATM sufficient or swimming in the pool on holiday ?
To answer your question, a successful pressure test of 5 atm means that the watch is good to go for 40m depth. 10 atm for 80m and so on. An average swimming pool is never more than 2.5m in depth so yes a water resistance rating of 5 atm is more than sufficient for normal pool forays.
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Thank you for the kind review @Jxwatch
Yes you are right, the greatest gain out of this episode for me, is your friendship. You popped out of the blue to purchase a gen dial from me. That was unforgettable lol.
Thank you M for your patience and kindness throughout the process too.
The customs issue was a harrowing experience for us both indeed, but you managed to circumvent the Thai customs with your ingenuity. That was a story on it's own, worth a good chuckle each time we remember it.
Wear the watch well, my friend, and thank you once again for being the guy you are. You have no idea how much I appreciate the experience dealing with you.
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12 minutes ago, kernow said:
....... but @Legend you didn’t mention Breitling - does that mean you’ve a large rep Breitling collection? Photos please!!! 🤪
ah, but I did qualify in my first post, that it has to be watches we desire. Breitling, desire and me just don't go in the same sentence brother lol
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Thank you guys for your input. Like I mentioned I personally will not buy an AP FC diver, an Hublot Big Bang (older 7750 based models) and most Panerai. Adding the non-chrono Tudors to the list.
A few more days and I will wrap this thread out and announce the posts I like best. Thank you once again guys!
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Mike has been a solid and stellar anchor for the forum and this is a natural progression for him.
A well-deserved promotion and to put it simply, nobody does it better.
Congrats Mike, and this is a good decision for the community!
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14 minutes ago, Jegypt2 said:
Soooo i ended up buying an AP Royal Oak Chrono SS/LE White Theme A-7750 (AP0213) and YachtMaster 116688 Blue YG/YG White BP Asia 4161 Mod (ROLYM137) from Trusty time.
The AP looks great, feels great, and overall I think is an excellent rep. The movement, however, stinks. Its loud, the winding is harsh. The rolex movement is even worse, so loud that the movement winding mechanism can be heard across the room.
I emailed Andrew and he advised to try self winding them and using it for a few days to see if it improves. Hopefully it gets better.
The noise issues will not resolve themselves over time. The winding can become very slightly smoother with use yes.
If you intend to keep the watches, best to get them properly serviced.
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Ok watch is finally back in safe hands, still to be forwarded on to me but have no issues about that seeing as whom it is with.
Have to say thanks to all the guys that badgered the life out of Jason on the thread on rwi, you all know who you are.
Obviously a special thanks to the admin team for getting involved and helping me out, as you see my patience only lasts so long so without you I would of written it off.
So no special mentions bro? Lol
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3 things:
1. Treat it as a lesson learnt and move on. And yes the learned members here will avoid buying from random sites like the one you listed.
2. The US/UK authorities will be able to do as much as the stuff you find in the middle of doughnuts, which is nothing.
3. Welcome to RWG. This is where you learn whom to buy from, how much to pay, and the expectations you can have in this hobby.
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This is a meaningful gentlemen's debate @altesporsche @horologist
The community benefits from both your knowledge and points of views.
A forum is a platform for a discussion, and this is a very in-depth and matured discussion.
Thank you guys. You have both proven to be very knowledgeable in your own fields and there is much we can learn from both your posts.
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He said he looks forward to meeting you both one day
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What’s with his expression bro? Lol
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Hope you didn’t pay much for that Siamese cat, it’s not 1 to 1 mate
Come on Paul everyone knows it’s a pug. And a Noob v3 at that. Close to 1:1
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OP - maybe pick a new username and try again after contributing for a few years...
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Lol what’s wrong with puffpuff? Brings to mind bunny tails and cigarettes.
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oh wow this set up must have cost a fortune. Impressive to say the least!