Kevin18

Probably a silly question, but is the cf on the reps real cf or fake wrap?

Btw does anyknow if if this http://www.trustytime.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=221&products_id=2614 Is as high quality as the $128 ultimate in the OP?

The crown guards look about the same size to me. The actual crown is noticably wider though.

Thanks for the help guy. I decided to just get a Casio watch for everyday use. I still want a cheap replica for collecting purposes and to see how they are and if I want to stay in this hobby. Was thinking about these http://www.1-pc8838.com/00rlss01101-2008-submariner-black-asian-2813-p-8998.html http://www.trustytime.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=221&products_id=1699 Apart from the dot marker on the bezel what is the difference between these 2 and which one is better? Would you guys recommend these at all or are they total crap? I can't find any reviews of them. Opinions please?

Personally I don't see the point of modding a replica to look like the gen. You'd rather just buy a gen.

Pretty much every company uses machines to make watches some way or another. The point is Rolex build their watches with skilled workers who put the watch together perfectly. With all due respect to the Chinese workers, they generally won't be anywhere near as good as those guys, thus making a shoddily built watch. Some of those watchmakers earns over $100k a year. Like I said earlier a Chinese worker can sometimes just earn a few pennies a day. It seems you need to severely mod and invest in a replica to actually make it a believable replica. After you spend all that money you'd rather just buy a second hand gen.

You can get plating that thick in semi rare metals like Chrome and satin. Its obvious the 5mil gold plating is not true. At the end of the day (with all due respect) we're dealing with crooks who are illegally selling counterfit goods. You should never trust them 100% with anything to say. We just have to accept that.

It actually costs more to produce the box and stuff that comes with a genuine Rolex than the average replica. (Replica's cost as little as $10 to make) Taking everything into account a submariner for example would cost over a thousand to produce one including running cost, wages etc. Replica's made in china only cost pennies per each employees wages. The materials are not that expensive either nor do they use state of the art facilities to manufacture the watches. You wont find a replica of a high end watch better than the genuine article. A rolex for example would be described as "engineering perfection" hand built made by some of the finest watchmakers in the world. A replica's parts are usually mass produced and put together by unskilled workers so there's a big gap in quality there. A scubadiver wouldn't buy a replica rolex submariner because of how bad the quality is on replicas. Its also because of status. People buy high end watches to show what they have acheieved in life. Sadly if you wear a replica people will think you're a loser. To sum it all up its because of quality. You might think there's very little difference between a replica and gen because they LOOK almost identical but there are many factors. My dad collects rare genuine watches as a hobby and to sell when the demand gets higher.

Is he still regarded as dishonest and a scammer?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UTrSmcpmm4&feature=plcp Tbh they seem like decent sellers. Seems like a good site for good quality out of the box replicas. I know a few people who purchased off them, aside from their prices they all thought they were good.

Sorry for bumping this old thread, but is the Josh these people were talking about the Joshua on here ?

Looks a bit like an Omega seamaster.

Bit harsh?

To be fair, as the middle man (if he is) he is still responsible for anything he says or claims. By sending false QC pics, its technically a bait and switch scam. Both buyer (for filing a pp dispute) and seller are wrong in this instance in my opinion. I can see why the buyer is soo angry though. If I payed those prices, I would expect the very highest grade replicas. The scarf in that picture is pathetic, honestly they sell higher quality replica scarfs at boot sales for £2.

Seems like they sell some very high quality watches. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UTrSmcpmm4&feature=plcp&context=C4923f94VDvjVQa1PpcFNPiPFFR3vOF2flo73-n11iCsWVhCfB94A%3D