TeeJay

No every but most of them are more or less way off and far from gen like a look, one word- crap. Ok "crap " is not right word but low end is " for friends/gifts and for children" , for collection or as every day beater you will need something more in the end.

Never had a problem with any of the low end reps as beaters...

And don`t think that above these are all same, only difference is movement. As far as I know all ( ok, 99,9%) lower then 100usd reps will have not real sapphire but some kind of synthetic glass... so first look, and you will see that it is fake-visibility, scratches etc.+ due the movement case has to be different also. Usually because of that dial is also different etc. Minor thing for you if you are new in business... very disturbing when you are in this" fake watch world" some times. At first you will start with low end budget rep`s, you don`t really see difference( and you don`t like to loose money, you don`t know or trust dealers yet) , after some time you like to have more accurate more gen like reps. And usually if you are new in business you don´t really understand why to spend 300+ if you can have that "same" ( at least for you same) watch 100 usd or even with lower price.

But that is( was ) just me.

ps) Of course I am not expert, I know only these rep`s what I own or like and Rolex is not one of them.

My words are not "golden"

These differences you mention, and I do not deny that there can be some differences, are so trivial and minor, that they need side by side comparison/measuring tools to actually distinguish them. Now, I'm not saying that the DJ I showed over the page could ever be passed as gen to an expert, but I would bet that in a side by side photoshoot with a more expensive rep of the same model, with both on bracelets, the differences between the two watches would not be glaringly obvious. I would say that of course someone would ask if it's a real Rolex, it says Rolex on the dial, and everyone knows that Rolex = Fake, yet no one has ever commented on it... I have another budget DJ on the way, which I will be wearing to an 80s theme party, and I'll be sure to report how many people ask me if it's a real Rolex or not. As above, I'm not dismissing the differences with things like the type of glass, etc, but in day to day Real Life (ie not discussion of said differences between collectors who appreciate those differences) do they really matter? Do they really make a low end watch unwearable outside the house? Personally, I think not... Trying to convince Joe Public a rep is the real deal is one thing, Getting the highest end stuff to trick yourself is something else entirely

@ Rymeister: Thanks, here's a little more Quartz Magic. Sure, the sub is an abomination to watchmaking, but it was a fun project, makes me smile every time I wear it, and it reminds me not to take things too seriously

I haven't seen the other thread, but with some watches, the dial/movement combo, swapping them to upgrade the parts, they simply wouldn't be compatible with other dial/movements, as date windows might not always line up, so things like the budget DJ, and maybe your Breitling, probably best to just keep as out of the box, and enjoy for what they are, rather than going down the modification route That's not to say that it's not fun to build a project, I just think that as above, it depends what someone's looking for in a watch

@ M: That's one slick piece, bro

An awesome read, thanks for taking the time to present it

I guess it depends on how you are defining 'flaw'... My Tudor Heritage has a quartz movement, but it still tells the time (and more accurately than an automatic movement ) of course, there are other errors in replication which would give it away as a rep way before someone unscrewed the case back As with the above DateJust though, it has never received negative criticism. Folks on the street simply do not know enough (or care enough) to see if someone's watch is real or not. The only people who would call you out anyway, are just insecure douches out to try and make themselves look big (and just succeeding in making themselves look like a dick instead) so fuck what people like that might say, just buy what you like, enjoy it for what it is, and remember that it should be on your wrist, it is your watch

I think at the end if the day, it depends what is importation to you, what flaws you could live with, and how close to the original do you really need it to be? I can understand that folks who're building projects are sourcing individual parts, so might as well be as accurate as possible. When it comes to 'out of the box' watches, I feel that a demand for 1:1 accuracy screams of the intent to pass the watch off as gen (or why else need it to look just like the original? ) I have a datejust which is a prime example of a truly Budget Rep. I daren't get the thing wet for fear of it flooding, it probabaly has countless errors which an expert could spot a mile off, not to mention that my choice to wear it on a leather strap, ala Captain Jack Harkness, does nothing but highlight the fact that there are no serial etchings between the lugs.

However, whenever I've worn it, I have never been 'called out' or had negative feedback on it, so I guess it is just a matter of personal tastes and requirements in a watch

I never even read it when it was there... plenty of cool folks in the main sections to talk to who weren't Platinum supporters, so never felt the need to frequent the Platinum Area

Not sure which dial is better, but as above, McQueen never had a 1655. All down to some Italian watch magazine, but it's a totally fictional connection

@ Preacher: I have the black-dialled version of that watch winging its way to me as we speak

@ Redwatch: How about a fixed-lugbar sub with the collar threaded through?

@ RedWatch: Liking the new recruit

@ J: The blue sub does exist in the wild, although I believe it was an Asian Market release... Not 100% on specific details either, but I've seen the actor TJ Thyne wearing one in episodes of Bones

@ J: Loving the blue sub, bro, don't see many of those about the forums

As for myself, just my plastic sub

In my experience, same chassis, different motor

As you said "dress watch", I'll give my vote to Number Four

Good to see you back, bro, sorry to hear that things've taken such a turn for you, stay strong

Afternoon, gents Just a quick message to say I'm fine, I'm still about, I've just been busy doing nothing Been wearing this old favorite for the past week

As mentioned above, buffing will reduce metal away from the case (not really noticeably though, other than the change in the polish) Personally, I've always felt that a few scratches (even on non-vintage watches) makes them more personal, and in the past, I never used to feel a watch was 'mine' until I'd dinged it somehow

Yeah, just a pause in thought for me as well

this is like a super rep whit so many goody parts that most cant afford it

This is the thing, bro, with that many parts, it's definitely a 'franken'

Bobbing for apples today...

That's hitting a home run and catching the game-ball all in one, awesome result, my friend, glad to have been of help

Thanks for sharing

Looking good Awesome goldfish too. I'm going to be having one done in the same style on my right arm at some point