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On 8/5/2016 at 11:50 AM, ChrisBlank said:

Personally I am looking at buying an original bracelet ref 97203 to solve this issue as I am a real big fan of this watch, but the non-wrapped sides would drive me nuts.

Does anybody know how much a bracelet like this would cost? I have heard ranges of US$ 3,500 - 5,500

Lol, I doubt you can find a gen bracelet for it, nor will it make sense mate. Find a gen dial prior to buying a gen bracelet lol. You wouldn't want to have 6k in a rep without even having a genuine dial or bezel. 

Looks 21j

On 9/29/2016 at 4:19 PM, alligoat said:

Here's a 1680 for sale by Kirill on VRM- he also refers to it as a MK4- $13K.

Yeah, that is a Mk4 just as the one you posted before. I meant OPs dial from eBay wasn't a Mk4 but Mk5. 

6 hours ago, irolexu said:

bought a gen 1680 and I'm going to be installing MQ mk v red dial and matching hands

Great! Congrats mate! 

Yup, that's a champagne disc like i.e. for the 16613.. Sucks man.. 

Welcome back man!  

On 9/23/2016 at 5:29 PM, prdubis said:

 

You should try Selosse, Krug, Jacquesson, Agrapart...

I'm a sucker for Armand de Brignac.. 

14 minutes ago, Sogeha said:

no point putting an MQ or Volermort dial in a Cartel case.

Lol, that idea itself... 

Like some guy once messaged me on RWI asking if it was possible to add a genuine dial and hands to his 21j uber cheapie Daytona.. 

11 minutes ago, RickFlorida said:

Now I hear this?   Darn.    I thought Yuki dials were pretty accurate so thanks for the heads up.    I wonder why he doesn't fix that inaccuracy.

Well, it's hard to get a lot of things correct on such highly detailed stuff and with better printing and quality, the price will raise for most of Yukis customers. Maybe he wants to keep the customers and lets the 'anal' guys be handled by other guys such as MQ, Phong etc. 

1 hour ago, greek said:

Thanks quetip.  I've wanted one of these for a long time.  Great watch.  Second hand but in pristine condition 

Yeah the tempt for these two tones is really hard. I've been a die hard two tone guy not too long ago myself.. I bought several 5 digit Bluesies followed with the ceramic flat blue Bluesy which made me sell all two tone watches I have because I hated the SubC TT.. I'm now back to Steel and precious metal pieces. 

That PANAM is pure sex

Real stunner.

You're looking at quite a build there. Be sure to load off a lot of money for the parts. 

All the gen parts fit the 3135 case. 

There's a hulk dial for a few grand on c24 right now if I'm not mistaken. 

Other than that you can try and look for parts on m2m markets, eBay or c24. 

Best bracelet is a genuine one but since that would probably be hard to find (as hard as the other parts lol) the early v6s bracelet is second to none. 

There are several watchmakers in the EU but I would highly recommend using Zocker for the build. He's trusted on RWI. 

Either side you do it from is fine. I'd remove the bezel and crystal and glue it back on. Simple fix imho 

Just now, irolexu said:

Can you tell me where to find Minh Quy

http://vintagewatchesmq.com

Yup, I also think it should fit.

22 minutes ago, alligoat said:

here's what I believe is referred to a MKIV these days- similar to your dial. This dial came from VRF- 2.38 mil SN.

I don't think yours is that bad a dial- I do see serifs on the SCOC printing which you don't see on the gen.

Nope, it's a Mk5. The horizontal lines on the 'ft' are aligned whereas they are not aligned on the Mk4. 

It's not a bad dial, just has that great flaw I personally can't overlook. The coronet placing is too far off the 12 marker. It's meant to be closer as you can see on your pic and other Mark dials. None have the big space design like @irolexu s dial has. 

That is such a great thread to read. Thanks for everyone who has chimed in until now, I will also share my view on that topic now. You can not make me stop!  

I've been in several discussions with people all over the rep and gen forums (especially on RWI, I'm sure y'all know why) where I've seen a lot of [censored] happening like i.e. a no profiteering rule but then seeing WM9 TTs sell at 1.2k stock with slight mods. And seeing a Noob v3 based franken SubC with the case being valued at $350. 

Now guess which sale got flamed? Yeah, the SubC because that case is an old rep case and bla bla. That is totally okay since these WM9's are rare as hens teeth nowadays and still the BEST OTB rep of the 16613 unless you build so are the v3 cases. 

As someone else already said above that's supply and demand. Which again is totally alright. 

Now seeing all this from the genuine / parts POV: 

If one bought a 1680 RedSub for let's say $250 back in the days, would it be profiteering nowadays if he sold it for the market value? Would YOU sell it for the same amount in 2016, you bought it for in the 70ies? I doubt it. That's just the market again. 

Same thing with parts, if one can source parts to modern or vintage parts no matter what he paid for it, the demand for it is there and if the people that want it decide they're ready to pay $3000 for a Hulk dial, then so be it, you can't change it even if the seller bought it for $1000 or whatever. 

I'm calling [censored] on all this profiteering bs that's all around lately. Sure it's not okay to sell a rep (current) that cost you $500 for $550. 

/rant

Always welcome mate!  

15 minutes ago, irolexu said:

Don't have a phong yet. I basically grabbed that dial for cheap but I'm open to buying another dial.

Yeah, sounds good. Keep the correct Mark dials and serials in mind for perfection! Hehe  

10 minutes ago, irolexu said:

Wow! A few grand?? That'll put the build costs shy of a gen if I use mostly gen parts

Yeah, also there's only a slight chance he will make the dial. He's in a position where he can decide whether he feels like making a dial that was requested or not. Lol

I'd suggest going with the MQ dial, what's your serial number on the Phong case exactly? 

8 minutes ago, docthor said:

Okay okay...you guys got me hooked. I'm going to put her on fixed bars
 

Hehe I'm thrilled to see it mate.

On 9/12/2016 at 6:18 AM, occb2 said:

Thanks brother.  I thought the same thing.  I got the case in hand and the case end pieces marks look a lot better live than the pics.  Love it.  Again thanks tons.

Case looks sick brother, will you keep the build with your current WG surround dial or are you going for a matte dial?  

10 hours ago, edgematic1 said:

I do think they should be on fixed springbars though!

This +1

33 minutes ago, irolexu said:

What can I expect to pay for a Ivan dial?

IF he does it expect to pay a few grand.