pompompurin

On 4/25/2018 at 3:38 AM, TAG Heuer said:

Ok thanks godkiller, how on earth you choose this name

 

I will put them to my favorites and maybe try again, but will use a 20x loupe

 

Do you have a particular loupe?? I use loupe on my glasses but they are no good.

haha i started off with 'godziller' (something i randomly thought of after watching godzilla), then somehow autocorrect gave me godkiller and for the sake of simplicity, i used the same screen name in every rep forum. My screen name is 'pompompurin' on rwi now (after having it changed by the admin)

I don't use a loupe - but I strongly recommend using a loupe to install the seconds hand on any movement!

On 6/7/2018 at 6:49 AM, Simen said:

For sale soon?

sold on rwi 

On 6/8/2018 at 2:30 AM, capice said:

👏, well done....

Thanks! Hope you enjoyed the write-up

On 6/9/2018 at 11:27 AM, bobandshawn said:

You mention "kit" several times. Where can we find this "kit"?

 

B

riyi002@sina.com
he can supply them

2 minutes ago, calvin951121 said:

Haha, yes i locate in hong kong and i mod watches.


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wow a modder from Hong Kong is rare. Everywhere I go, everyone wears a gen in Hong Kong - i haven't even seen a fake one inside a crowded MTR yet

If you see someone wearing a 1680 with jubilee bracelet... then it's likely me lol

Does anyone know if Ruby's 1680 / 5512/ 5513 cases have that gasket channel around the rehaut and beneath the crystal retainer like gen?

e.g. like this one below. I whatsapp-ed her but she doesn't seem to understand my message.

4 hours ago, WatchingSG said:

Nice


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Thanks!
 

3 hours ago, TAG Heuer said:

You make it sound so easy But very nice job and watch to ofcourse

 

I once change the dial but I had some problems with installing the second hand, so I left it. It's al so tiny 

Haha we all have to start from somewhere - here are some videos and tutorials that helped me start modding watches:

- 2824-2 resetting keyless = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b83l-1DmlQ&app=desktop
- installing/removing hands, de-casing movement, etc = http://www.repgeek.com/showthread.php?24567-Fitting-Gen-Dial-Hands-amp-Crystal-into-a-UPO
- Cwazy's tutorials (e.g. installing / removing hands, removing stem, etc, relume) = https://www.youtube.com/user/cwazy11/videos
- relume video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyEB2yDBXbM (part 1 - there are more parts to it from the same author)
- ncrich's basic cartel mods = https://forum.replica-watch.info/forum/vintage-watches/280725-basic-mods-to-the-jfk-cartel-sub-step-by-step

i bent a few sets of hands when i first started - hand setting can be tricky. I recommend using a 10x loupe with steady hands

Going to share my build diary here. This is a build I recommend beginners / newcomers / modders / watchsmith / and everyone else to do because it's so simple and yet the results are amazing

Finished the build immediately when the parts arrived today

Here are the final specs:
- Genuine Tudor dial
- Genuine Rolex 603 crown
- Genuine ETA 2834-2 (brand new!)
- Raffles case set and bracelet (brand new)
- Rare aftermarket Tudor hands

The case set and everything else that I needed has arrived today:


First step is to change the day disc to a better one (as provided as part of the kit). The movement ring is also change to the one that is provided as part of the kit


Stock ETA day disc on the left. Better day disc with serif fonts wasinstalled (the better day disc is provided as part of the kit)


Next, movement tabs and screws were installed; the gaskets were also greased. You can see the beauty of a brand new ETA 2834-2


Hands were then installed


Crystal and smooth bezel were aligned and pressed onto the watch


So far, the bracelet quality and case set accuracy/quality is much better than their usual Datejust case and Oyster bracelet. The bracelet feels smooth and gen.


FINISHED!!


The case shape is amazing! I don't have to reshape the case - it's perfect.

Overall, the Tudor Date-Day is a VERY straightforward build and I recommend it to members who just started modding/franken-ing/building watches. The end results are beautiful, and there is no need to fidget with DWO / dial spacer height / dial feet etc (like Rolex builds)

On 4/11/2018 at 12:55 PM, calvin951121 said:

That is pure black. But the font is too small.


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I just randomly noticed that you are from Hong Kong! It's so rare to find modders / builders here in Hong Kong

On 3/6/2018 at 6:36 PM, DVNE said:

Anymore pics of the bracelet?

the clasp isn't period correct but I am ok with it all

Btw... important for others that want the best 3135 hands

Email torobravo and see if they can help you source a set of JF 16610 3135 hands (approx $30 USD). Those are hands down the best aftermarket ones.

After messing with different parts, Startime hands and Clarks are both terrible IMO. Nothing beats gen and IMO JF and TC are both very close to gen.

Oh yeah and those Phong / MQ sub hands are terrible as well IMO - the lume proportions are wrong, and the seconds hand isn't tapered with the end circle being too big.

at the moment with my 14270... 
1. I swapped a SH 3132 movement into it
2. I installed a vietnam oyster bracelet with a 7 hole micro-adjustment clasp
3. I am waiting for a replacement crystal to arrive (since I used the existing crystal on another build for my friend)

9 minutes ago, DVNE said:

It would be a easier task to find a gen 16200 Datejust case then it is to find this 114270 gen spec case. Mines was the last one I saw for sale on RWI and it was years ago.

 

BUT if you ever come across a used eta 2824 complete Explorer 114270 rep, buy it asap. That is the best rep midcase ever made for the 16200 Datejust/114270 Explorer.

Thanks for the tips

I noticed that LF factory used to make classic 162xx datejust with SA3135 movement... But i believe they sold poorly (because nobody seems to have it lol!) and they were soon discontinued
https://ts-station.cn/goods.php?ProId=14857

3 hours ago, DVNE said:

 

My franken says hellooo! I regret selling my old tritium build in a gen 16200 lug hole case but this luminova build will do for now.

That is my grail build! I am 'pompompurin' on RWI and i wish i could obtain your rare 3135 datejust case for other builds. 

i noticed that some of Yuki's stuff is expensive when compared to the same item from another supplier (e.g. Yuki's 1016 case... it's basically a riyi/raffles datejust case, but it cost 3x more than riyi/raffles)
http://www.yukiwatch.net/Explorer-I-1016-case-for-ETA-movt-p30563063

higher-end (vietnam?) 7206 rep bracelets have 7 micro-adjustment holes on the clasp - like gen  (i.e. the one ruby and yuki supplies). Raffles/Riyi clasps have 6 micro-adjustment holes on the clasp

it's not unusual if yuki and ruby sources the same parts from the same supplier

@Ephry73 is right; the  TC (and gen) 16610 cases have deep rehaut, whereas the gen 16800 has shallow rehaut. Startime 3035 cases are perfect for 16800 builds, but those cases are rare.

If you drill lug holes into a 16610 case, then your watch can look like a Y-series or earlier (depending if you use SEL / hollow end link bracelet, or tritium / superluminova dial)

On 11/2/2017 at 2:50 PM, blame said:

Hey!

Did you end up trying the 3135 movement in the rep 16200 case? 

Does that fit in there? I'm assuming it does as they come with a spacer (usually the spacer is because they're designed for Rolex diameter movements 12.5 lignes) 

 

 

Yuki / SH 3135 doesn't work with rep 16200 (raffles / riyi) case.

The movement fits, but the crown cannot screw into the watch because the tube area is slightly recessed/indented into the case which causes the crown to hit the movement

On 11/3/2017 at 12:45 AM, lorenzo1910 said:

Maybe it's obvious for you (experts) but since I'm a noob I have a question : why the swap of the seconds hand?

Thank you!

The stock JF seconds hand is very soft and weak - the cylindrical tube bent when I was reinstalling it into a watch. Therefore I had to source a gen seconds hand.

On 11/3/2017 at 8:35 AM, jmb said:

Super job!

On 10/24/2017 at 6:59 AM, highoeyazmuhudee said:

very nice build

On 10/23/2017 at 1:53 AM, wiesn089 said:

Great build!

Thanks guys! Hope you enjoyed the pics 

On 10/23/2017 at 12:40 PM, Vibes said:

I paid $800 for a trashed 78360 a couple of months ago with 580 end links. The blade was damaged, so I have a yuki blade and clasp on it. [censored] is too expensive, should be perfect at these prices!

What happened to the blade? Might be possible for restoration with some soldering or bending

 

On 11/22/2017 at 11:38 PM, JSebWC said:

Great job again my friend.  would like to see some profile shots of the completed piece please.

 

My 14270 rep says HI!

 

These 14270 36mm reps are quite rare now. It's always good to see another one!

beautiful and finally, some perfectly-shaped classic day-date case that has the correct dimensions

Just now, hologramet said:

Right on!

 

However you can't compare a Raffles 78360 with ARF-bracelet. It's night and day. The ARF-bracelet is amazing. Finish, brushing (just give it some extra polishing on the engravings as there are still burn-dots visible and need to be buffed out.

 

Otherwise I have a BP Daytona 116500-braclet, just refurbished that I'm gonna post in the Trades-area in 4-6 hours, give it a look.

 

Also, the stock crown would be more than suiting as it's a 6mm one, similar to the 114270/1016-ish crown. But sure, one could always add a 7000+700-crown. I just don't see the relevant case why? There's never been a Explorer with 7 or 8mm crown?

 

Also remember it's not super-easy installing a plexi in the stock place as the gaskets & adhesion is quite different.

Old plexi-models hade a crystal retainer that creates quite some pressure at the base of the plexi.

 

You would need to find a new gasket (L-shaped) not with the [censored] fitting a sapphire crystal.

Also a straight plexi with the outer diameter straight. Also the total dimension should slighty above the diameter that would normally fit as you want some compression on the gasket + plexi crystal to give at least some water resistance.

That's true, the ARF bracelet is a million times better than the jagged and sharp-edge raffles.

The rationale for offering the raffles bracelet solution is because it is a shortcut for the OP to avoid rebrushing the ARF bracelet by using a raffles one (when the OP can potentially resell the ARF bracelet as well to recoup some project cost), or if the OP prefers to use a hollow end-link bracelet to get this '1016-influenced' vibe. Yuki 78360 may also be an alternative but I don't think their 78360 rep bracelet has hollow links (like raffles) and it looks similar to the raffles one (but cost extra). If OP prefers to use a SEL bracelet then there are other choices as well

as for using 700 crown with 7000 tube or 8mm crown, i am just following the tempus-inspired vibe where they use a bigger brevet crown

On 10/12/2017 at 11:18 PM, Desai said:

Nice build.

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Thanks!

22 minutes ago, Sogeha said:

True but the OP was talking about making a fantasy model in the style of a Tempus Machina. As TM always use current models, it would be in keeping to use this model and maybe consider some case shaping to maybe slim the sides. I don’t see what could be done with the lug ends without ruining the SEL fit. It sounds like a fun project to me.

i can see your point and @hologramet point - i guess it depends on how similar does the OP wants his 114270 build to look like a 114270 or a Tempus Machina (TM) influenced 1016 - both watches/style are quite unique by nature

if OP pursues a ARF 116234 datejust, then i probably would approach it like this
- smooth bezel (raffles 36mm)
- domed sapphire or I think a clarks 25-135 plexi might fit (because a gen 25-295c fits my gen 16000 case so I assume they can fit the opposite?)
- gilt 28mm 1016 dial with gold sub hands
- possibly athaya 700/800 bigger crown and tube (but i think it would look funny with a bigger crown, so i will leave the stock crown alone)
- heavily chamfered lugs with brushed finish 
- brush the stock ARF bracelet or buy a raffles oyster bracelet 78360 for $30


the above recommendations are based on the TM 116610 and its visual mods (that are relevant for a TM-inspired 116234) :
1. heavily chamfered lugs with brushed finish
2. gilt dial with gold hands
3. bigger crown
4. domed crystal
5. brushed bracelet
 

1 hour ago, hologramet said:

 

Everything is possible, the big question is... How much will it cost you?

 

Have you thought about using the DJ 36mm as a base:

https://puretime03.com/featured-products/datejust-36-ss-116234-arf-1-1-best-edition-silver-dial-on-904l-ss-oyster-bracelet-sa3135.html

 

You will get 3 important parts:

1) Good movement (just remove the day-complication)

2) Good case

3) Good bracelet with great SEL

 

What remains case-wise is changing the x-tal and finding a good smooth bezel.. And well of course, the mods you mention above...

the case/lug shape of a 116200 series datejust is different to a 114270 case

the 116200 series of datejust (i.e. the ARF 116234) has wider lugs and mirror-polished lugs. I also don't think it's possible to reshape a 116200 series into a 114270 because the 114270/16200 appears to have longer lugs (but this needs confirmation from others)

17 hours ago, G4_Chrono said:

Hi

 

Thanks for the link. I've signed up over there and doing lots of reading. . . .

 

Looks like maybe there isn't the quality of rep for an explorer 114270 as the larger models and subs. Maybe?

according to @DVNE, the best 36mm explorer was the cartel ones and they run on 2824-2 movement. But those are long discontinued and currently there aren't any alternatives that run on 2824-2.

the 2836-2 version (just like the link i have provided from above) has various flaws but i think it is the best one available for now

it's better to consider the JF V2 214270 if you want an explorer (which is extremely close to super-rep in my eyes) - but those are 39mm

4 hours ago, Sogeha said:

That is exactly what I was thinking. Lots of reps only really spoilt by having too low a crown

High-five! we got the same oberservations

I have a SERIOUS OCD for Rolex reps with the wrong crown height. This is because gen Rolex cases are made consistently to match their standard gen movement specs so there is no exception allowed for rep Rolex cases with the wrong crown/stem/tube height. This is why i will never ever consider using a cartel rep for my project builds

I place a serious emphasis on wrong crown/stem/tube height over wrong case shape because case shape irregularities can be dismissed as overpolishing or weaker manufacturing tolerance from many years ago, but crown/stem/tube height can never go wrong.

5 hours ago, G4_Chrono said:

Hi Gents.

 

Im looking for a quality 114270 rep - so that's 36mm with SEL bracelet. I've read of a JF v2 with SH3132 movement but can't see it on trusty or puretime, only the 39mm 214270.

 

Does it exist or have I got my wires crossed?

 

Thanks. 

This thread on RWI will interest you

https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/amazing-little-explorer-1-36mm-from-lucy.395976/

19 hours ago, bobandshawn said:

Where is that rep case for 2824 going??? 

 

B

Reserved for a future datejust build hah

8 hours ago, jmb said:

I think I'm going to order a couple 2836 cases, plug the tube hole, re-drill in the 2824 position and see what happens...

if you can do that, please plug and redrill those cartel cases as well - then we will have an affordable alternative to vietnam case and phong case lol!