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Having a good experience and transactions with Josh and Andrew is completely irrelevant with the issue. I always had extremely great transactions with both of them (especially Josh) but I believe the choice that was made was the right one for the general good. A bold move, especially from RWI who supported them for a long time, and I am 1000% that the proof is there and it is an unacceptable behaviour.

First post after coming back from my holidays.. 4 days later and I want to go back

Thanks a lot and I agree.. its only 2 minutes to post this and update the signature.

I am going home to Greece tomorrow and will stay there for a month.. Mainly sunbathing, swimming, and of course the usual leather hunting.. I will check my emails occasionally but don't expect a quick reply

Very very nice watch.. Me likes How big it is?

Everyone who can read between the lines can see that there are other reasons behind the 'complaints' so no worries.. This place is perfectly fine. All the members who got one or more were more than happy with them.. the 'others' were just envious

Let's not thread crap t's crown effort with dial discussion. My bad for starting it. When the time will come people will know

The dial it's happening... Some other member's collaboration will make that reality

The first photo is the angle that make them seem different. They are identical as shown in my new photo one on top of the other. In the second photo also the levers are not exactly lined up. I won't bother taking more photos with rulers for the measurements for you. I can send them though to anyone from the people who have one and doubt my word against yours. I am not gonna keep this debate with someone who wants to argue for the sake of it or for other reasons. If you had them both (or even only the rep) in your hands like many members you could judge better than from my amateur photos of the quality of the finish. I won't even reply to your comment that I 'maybe' tried to make tons of money from the community while you only wanted to benefit them.

YES Excellent news t... btw we are getting close to a 1:1 Pam

Are you serious mate? The cg is made 1:1 with almost 0 tolerance. The company is one of the best here with the best new state of the art 5-axis CNC machine. Here are some photos to prove you that you are wrong in everything that you said above.. On top is the gen lever and on the bottom the rep. If it was too large you could have seen it from the bottom. I know you never had an h series cg in you hands so how you can say by some photos if pin and lever are big and radii less? I have sent it to members that have genuine 111-112 and 005 and they say it is spot on. You have sent me numerous Pms requesting cad files to do the cgs yourself. That ain't gonna happen so please stop telling nonesense in this thread because I never replied and agreed to give anything you.. Because if you believe that you can make them for 15$ you are naive... unless they will be made by slaves in China in thousands of pieces or in a basement in US crafted by hand by an old man. We have seen the results of 'cheap' work in some of our reps.

Excellent finish you achieved there rolli on the cg... That is the process the gen cg and has this shiny brushed finish. It was really impossible for me to be able to do it and much more expensive but the finish now in yours is exactly the same as the gen. It was very close before with the many fine brushed coating but this is the proper way to do it as we discussed

Nope.. this cg started to reappear (after the pre-vendome era) to the H series historics same time when the changed the movement decoration G have the previous narrow straight version.

Excellent news but I was expecting them... OEM specs Jimmy case and OEM crown won't need any modification for OEM specs cg. Although you know that this cg is not the proper one for your watch? For the G series you need a Jimmy cg

Thanks guys.. I think small individual parts production is the way to go if we are really interested for 1:1 reps.. The rep makers will never mind to be extremely careful in every detail especially with historic Pams.. I heard nice 1:1 dials and other interesting stuff will be available from other members The price will always though be expensive because we compare it with the Chinese who are making 10000 parts at once in China. Give me only 1000 orders and I can get a bargain price for everything you want to make

Minor flaw? I think it is quite big to be honest...

Nice watch.. you have to get a Ti case though.. or at least brush this one

Joshua's standard rep case...

Here are the two most common versions cgs panerai made for the historics.. both genuine in this photo.. Let say A-F series (polished) and H+ and Pre-V series (brushed)... I think you will see now the difference. Thing is that the A-F is much easier to manufacture because of the lack of curvature. The Rep makers just made a bad rep of the A-F series and kept it in all the models whatever series. H+ is thicker with a big curvature. I won't start though on the construction quality.. No rubber part between pin and lever leading to floppy levers, not flush pins, not flush fitting on the case with huge gaps etc etc...

Excellent review.. I might consider getting it if it is that good..

Thanks guys.. some more photos... With the lever is the rep and without the OEM for comparison..

I' ve seen one in Geneva last year

Don't really like white dial Pams.. I had a 99,9% franken 003 but I sold it because it didn't got any wrist time...

Great watch and strap.. I lost last week a strap like that in transit from Italy