StormTooper4 Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 OK Folks this has been bugging me for a while so I have a question for you. Was there ever a Gen 196 Daylight with recessed subdials? I have had this picture in my collection and I believe it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drulee Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 I think you're mixing up sub-dials with date wheels. If so, take a look at this: That's what a sunken date wheel looks like If I'm mistaken, ehh I just wanted to post a pic of my 250 anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asf Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 I think he's talking about how the subdials dip down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swdivad Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 The PAM 196 never had recessed subdials (in the gen)... but it looks like you've stumbled across a rep that does... The PAM 188 has sunken date wheels... but some reps did not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omni Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 The PAM 196 never had recessed subdials (in the gen)... but it looks like you've stumbled across a rep that does... The PAM 188 has sunken date wheels... but some reps did not. Just about to post the same, confirmed what swdivad said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted August 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Drulee I do mean the subdials in the way that your 250 has like concentric rings where the subdials are Swdivad funnily enough I was looking at your PVD masterpiece and was tempted to post a picture of it to show the difference as your pictures show it clearly , but here is another picture of a Gen , and its Flat Dial But my first picture is also of a gen (I think) this one if it is someone's on RWG please chime in. ST4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 I would say the answer is "no" there has never been a 196 with recessed subdials. Here is the last year of the daylight in an I series: http://www.essential-watches.com/Panerai-PAM00196(PAM196)-PAM-196-Luminor-Daylight-Chronograph-Black-Dial-Original-Version-(Discontinued)-18841.aspx The watch above does look good but IMHO it is a rep. Lello datewheel (font and matte), lever on crown guard, etc. Oh and I believe I have that same dial sitting in my parts box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted August 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Kruz and others, thanks for the confirmation, I shall enjoy my subdials quietly on my own. Does anyone else have a similar liking or is it just me ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 I like the subdials as well and I like the bolder font as well. They did it on the 250/251. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogfalls Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Take a look in the number five '5' it looks different to the one that the gen used to . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted August 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 frogfalls you have the eye, I have to say the GEN's 5 looks really weird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 8 and 10 are way off as well. Here is a gen 188 dial for comparison. It is easier to see it black on white. Truly rounded 0 on the 10 and Broader 8 which pushes all the way up to the sibdial. Can see it on a 162 (not my pic): The old school 196 rep Dial is also much better than the newer rep dials. I prefer to live with the longer hash mark at 6 and extra tick around 12 for the better number formation and overall layout: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
projectologist Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 I would say the answer is "no" there has never been a 196 with recessed subdials. Here is the last year of the daylight in an I series: http://www.essential-watches.com/Panerai-PAM00196(PAM196)-PAM-196-Luminor-Daylight-Chronograph-Black-Dial-Original-Version-(Discontinued)-18841.aspx The watch above does look good but IMHO it is a rep. Lello datewheel (font and matte), lever on crown guard, etc. Oh and I believe I have that same dial sitting in my parts box. I was looking at more pics of that watch and the caseback looks gen, but of course it might not be the same watch as in the first pic. http://www.essential-watches.com/Panerai-PAM00196(PAM196)-PAM-196-Luminor-Daylight-Chronograph-Black-Dial-Original-Version-(Discontinued)-18841.aspx#moreimages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbchubb Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 I have never seen a gen 196 with recessed subdials. Here's a few gen pictures from my (reference pictures ) collection. Click on pictures for bigger version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cskent69 Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 8 and 10 are way off as well. Here is a gen 188 dial for comparison. It is easier to see it black on white. Truly rounded 0 on the 10 and Broader 8 which pushes all the way up to the sibdial. Damn,I am jealous of that 188 dial Kruzer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo5555 Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Damn,I am jealous of that 188 dial Kruzer! damn... tats the only HOLY GRAIL FRANKEN 188 we haf across the WWW... dun tink anybody will eva match Kruzer's 188!!!.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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