leitztozeiss Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 Well, I am now a happy owner of a 111H with updated CDG movement. The 111H is from Natalie, though I did not order directly from her. It was another member who actually ordered it from her, and I ended up just buying it from him. It's a long story, but anyway here's the details . . . - The ETA movement is decorated very nicely. The CDG engraving is a major improvement over the previous version. Also has the seventeen jewel engraving. Needle is the fat one, characteristic of the 'working' swan neck. - CG is brushed and fits nicely against the case. Lever was floppy, but I fixed that by inserting a small piece of rubber in the hole in the lever - feels like gen now (really). Also, I made the lever pivot pin flush with the top of the CG, and brushed the top of the pin like the rest of the CG - so it all looks very uniform. - Crown is better than the early 111H's, but not quite thick enough. Looking directly at the watch, the crown appears to have a nice thickness. But, at an angle, the chamfered or rounded edges make the crown appear thin. In short, better but not quite thick enough. - Lume sucks big time. - Strap. Surprisingly good - better than early rep straps. The brown strap has a nice thick pad, and the stitching is very nice. Not an Xamas, but you can at least wear it out of the box and not feel like an ass. - Recessed pin is still there, though not as deep as before. You really have to look close to notice. The hour/minute hands are black anyway, so it tends to hide what little shadow there is from the recess. Even at a sharp angle, you can see most of the top of the pin - so it really is an improvement. - Crystal is synthetic sapphire AND is very nicely AR'd. - Case is thicker than the previous 111H case. Polish is very high and looks great. I spotted a couple of roughly finished (though highly polished) edges along a couple of the lugs. I took care of this immediately with some dremel work. - CG screws are bigger, with very robust looking threads. - Also, nothing is misspelled anywhere on the watch. OFFICINE PANERAI engraving on the movement is crisp. Well, that's it for now. I know pics will do better than anything I've described. I'll try to take care ot that tomorrow guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 Wow, I didn't know Natalie was still around. Sounds like a winner. I look forward to seeing it. Well, I am now a happy owner of a 111H with updated CDG movement. The 111H is from Natalie, though I did not order directly from her. It was another member who actually ordered it from her, and I ended up just buying it from him. It's a long story, but anyway here's the details . . . - The ETA movement is decorated very nicely. The CDG engraving is a major improvement over the previous version. Also has the seventeen jewel engraving. Needle is the fat one, characteristic of the 'working' swan neck. - CG is brushed and fits nicely against the case. Lever was floppy, but I fixed that by inserting a small piece of rubber in the hole in the lever - feels like gen now (really). Also, I made the lever pivot pin flush with the top of the CG, and brushed the top of the pin like the rest of the CG - so it all looks very uniform. - Crown is better than the early 111H's, but not quite thick enough. Looking directly at the watch, the crown appears to have a nice thickness. But, at an angle, the chamfered or rounded edges make the crown appear thin. In short, better but not quite thick enough. - Lume sucks big time. - Strap. Surprisingly good - better than early rep straps. The brown strap has a nice thick pad, and the stitching is very nice. Not an Xamas, but you can at least wear it out of the box and not feel like an ass. - Recessed pin is still there, though not as deep as before. You really have to look close to notice. The hour/minute hands are black anyway, so it tends to hide what little shallow there is from the recess. Even at a sharp angle, you can see most of the top of the pin - so it really is an improvement. - Crystal is synthetic sapphire AND is very nicely AR'd. - Case is thicker than the previous 111H case. Polish is very high and looks great. I spotted a couple of roughly finished (though highly polished) edges along a couple of the lugs. I took care of this immediately with some dremel work. - CG screws are bigger, with very robust looking threads. - Also, nothing is misspelled anywhere on the watch. OFFICINE PANERAI engraving on the movement is crisp. Well, that's it for now. I know pics will do better than anything I've described. I'll try to take care ot that tomorrow guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikellem Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 Excellent description... Looking forward to see the pics...! Thanks for sharing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarks Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 Nice one!! Looking fwd to the pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 Very nice description. Can't wait to see it. I am still holding off on the H series until someone makes a proper crown guard (larger with lever centered) for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DuDro Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 . . . Also, I made the lever pivot pin flush with the top of the CG, and brushed the top of the pin like the rest of the CG - so it all looks very uniform... How did you perform this mod? A file? Please advise...Thanks! BTW...Nice looking watch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madasboot Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Ingenious work my dear friend! A real stunner!!! Cheers, M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leitztozeiss Posted August 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 How did you perform this mod? A file? Please advise...Thanks! BTW...Nice looking watch! Dudro. It is very simple. You will need a sharp tipped tool to press the pin from the bottom side. Press the pin is flush with the top side or sticks up a little from the top side. If the pin sticks up a little from the top side, then press the pin and the CG together against a flat surface, like a counter top (that's what I did). You will need to apply a good amount of pressure, as the pin is press fit. It will help to first remove the CG from the case first. Oh, one more thing. I took two small pieces of folded card board and placed it at opposite ends under the CG so that the pin had room to stick out when I pressed the pin through from the opposite side. Know what I mean? I can try to post a pic if that's not clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 It looks great. And now that I see your pics it is interesting that the crown does look so good from the top but not from the side. Kind of weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Indeed! Looks quite nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarks Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 This is just stunning. Well done once again!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuDro Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Dudro. It is very simple. You will need a sharp tipped tool to press the pin from the bottom side. Press the pin is flush with the top side or sticks up a little from the top side. If the pin sticks up a little from the top side, then press the pin and the CG together against a flat surface, like a counter top (that's what I did). You will need to apply a good amount of pressure, as the pin is press fit. It will help to first remove the CG from the case first. Oh, one more thing. I took two small pieces of folded card board and placed it at opposite ends under the CG so that the pin had room to stick out when I pressed the pin through from the opposite side. Know what I mean? I can try to post a pic if that's not clear. Got it! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLee Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Wow, I didn't know Natalie was still around. Sounds like a winner. I look forward to seeing it. Yesss.. I'm still hereeeee ..hiding behind the forbidden place regards, Natalie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebakanezzar Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Awesome! this is the one I have been waiting for! I am in for one.....now who is selling them? what is the consensus on this Natalie Lee? I seem to remember posts from the old RWG that she was a scamer..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leitztozeiss Posted August 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 More pics . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebakanezzar Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 DAMN! Stop posting pics! you are making me drool! What strap is that BTW? It looks sweet too! More pics . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leitztozeiss Posted August 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 The strap is a prototype Strapculture "Antiqua". It was 26/26, but I shaved it down to about 24.5 to fit my 111H. I love this strap!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 what is the consensus on this Natalie Lee? I seem to remember posts from the old RWG that she was a scamer..... She is a scammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leitztozeiss Posted August 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 I didn't buy directly from Natalie. But, the friend I purchased it from has made numerous purchases from her recently and in the past. He's 100% on delivery and quality of watches from her. This is not an endorsement. This is just fact. Even our best dealers here have their detractors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 This is not an endorsement. This is just fact. Even our best dealers here have their detractors. The fact that she's banned from selling on all four active forums speaks volumes. It's more than the odd detractor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender110 Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 looks like this is the movement The Zigmeister is warning us about. just now being produced w/ CDG 'H' instead of 'G' 'PANERAI PANERAI'. lookagain at the pics. i recommend ELs 111H -incorrect appearing regulator but better quality movement. j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leitztozeiss Posted September 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 No problems so far. Movement has been accurate within seconds between windings. I'll have the hairspring issue fixed (if it needs it) when I have the Davidsen dial, hands and palp crown installed. I'm not convinced that this is an issue with every movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiowas Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 looks like this is the movement The Zigmeister is warning us about. just now being produced w/ CDG 'H' instead of 'G' 'PANERAI PANERAI'. lookagain at the pics. i recommend ELs 111H -incorrect appearing regulator but better quality movement. j where can i find The Zigmeister's post on this movement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 where can i find The Zigmeister's post on this movement? Here: http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=11128 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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