ETA 2836-2 - Clone or Real Deal

[Dudemeister]

Can anyone tell me if this is a real ETA movement, or is it a clone. Does the PH next to the ETA logo represent a specific factory (like in the Phillipines)?

If this were a true chinese clone, I would doubt they would put something like this PH on it, they'd make sure it's exactly like the Swiss one.

So what do you guys think ? real or fake, and what does the PH mean?

Thanks

[Jkay]

Show me the gears that take power off the rotor. Easy tell. This is the ETA movement from my ca1962 vintage, gen solid gold Arola.

See the 2 gears in the upper left corner of the photo? All those drilled holes ... are to reduce weight. Chinese ETA clones are lazy and only have half of those holes. Not all of them.

[Dudemeister]

Show me the gears that take power off the rotor. Easy tell. This is the ETA movement from my ca1962 vintage, gen solid gold Arola.

See the 2 gears in the upper left corner of the photo? All those drilled holes ... are to reduce weight. Chinese ETA clones are lazy and only have half of those holes. Not all of them.

Unfortunately, I don't have this movement in my hands, I'm looking to buy it, but I'm not sure it's a copy or the real thing. The vendor wants $80 each, which would be worth it if it's the real mcCoy, but not if it's a clone.

They only have one other picture posted, but you can only see a partial image of one of the gears you'tre talking about. Here it is:

[geyper man]

GEN ETA to my eyes.

[Jkay]

That looks like a genuine ETA to me, but again, I'm a newb here so don't get ripped off because I said it was OK

Here is another picture of my vintage gen ETA ... you can see the same gear in your photo ... it looks identical.

[Francisco]

Gen ETA movements are sealed in an aluminium sealed bag.

Come on... boys...you know what a rep is...