Where to buy a genuine Tudor snowflake submariner

[rolexmaniac88]

Dear members,

I just fell in love with Redwatch's Tudor. It's just stunning! However, i don't have the courage nor the capacity to build one of my own. I got a little money saved up and consider very seriously buying a genuine tudor snowflake with or without date. What ref should i get (9401, 9411 or else) and where can i find them? I'm in EU and you just can't find them easily. Does anyone know a good seller, website that sell a couple of those? I'm a little afraid of eBay. I don't wanna get ripped of with a semi genuine with an aftermarket insert, etc.

Also, what should this type of watch cost?

Thanks for all your help.

Rolexmaniac

[vlydog]

Try Vintage Rolex Forum

http://www.vintagerolexforum.com/

[redwatch]

Glad I inspired you RM!!! I would stay away from the Bay. I would have many concerns about it's authenticity. Try the link vlydog posted and see if you have any luck. I have seen them priced between $2,500 and $4,000 depending on the condition. I originally wanted to build a 9401 but the parts became available for the 9411 so I went for it. In the end I am very happy that I did.

Good luck with your search!!!

[rolexmaniac88]

@redwatch: i bet your happy, your watch is superb !!!!

@vlydog: thanks for the link. No luck so far but still searching...

PS: is timezone another option?

[JoJo35]

Wow, these pop up all the time at various gen vintage dealers and on the bay. I agree that VRF is a good starting point. Register there and post up a "WTB" in the marketplace. Expect replies of course to be on the high end. Other than that, go to the "links" section on VRF to find some of the vintage dealers.

Good luck!

JJ

[ciccio]

Here I've bought some watches,a very serious forum :http://orologi.forumfree.it/?t=44584960

[gavidoc]

]Elite Deal Seeker

Type in Tudor Sub.

For pristine condition 9401 or 9411 don't pay more then 3 grand. Rough shape as low as $1500. Normal condition 9401 without bracelet will be around $2000. With bracelet as high as $2500.

9411 will be around the same prices. Expect to pay a premium for an all original blue dial with matching faded blue insert.

[GoFaster]

I was looking for a snowflake the last week and I know a guy who sells one... maybe you can ask him

I will send him a mail to see if he has always this tudor

[rolexmaniac88]

@gofaster: please do ! Thank you

@gavidoc: i have a 9411 all original blue dial and blue insert but instead of being bright it has turned dark blue. It is kind of beautiful. Is the blue of greater value than a black one ? The price is

[gavidoc]

@gavidoc: i have a 9411 all original blue dial and blue insert but instead of being bright it has turned dark blue. It is kind of beautiful. Is the blue of greater value than a black one ? The price is

[rolexmaniac88]

This is it:

[rolexmaniac88]

what do you think?

[redwatch]

I'm confused. You say you want to buy one, but you already have a 9411? And a quite nice one at that!

[panerai153]

@Rolexmaniac88

I would utilize all the resources. Two good ones that I have used in the past to sell genuines are TZ (Timezone) The usual Caveats apply. Buy the seller!! Ask for references, make sure you have a reasonable return privilage if it's not up to snuff, and by all means use a credit card or PayPal.If they demand Western Union, BEWARE!! The folks at TZ police the site pretty thoroughly, but scammers slip in on occasion. The second good source is the Military Watch Resource (MWR) Trading Post it's a smaller group, but some very knowledgable folks on there. WatchNet Also, like TZ also WatchUSeek Post a want to buy on all of those, you would be surprised what may turn up.Ebay would be my last resort, as any watch posted on tghe other sales forums if the least bit suspect will come under very close scrutiny. On Ebay, with the anonomous bidder thing (initials and couple of numbers) it's impossible to warn off bidders if the item is fake.

@ Red,

I think what he is trying to say is he is looking at this one. He mentioned in a post above a price of 2800 Euros, but could possibly get it for 2500.

Arthur

[Stephane]

You may want to send a mail to my buddy at www.subgmt.com

All he has is not automaticaly on his web site

[rolexmaniac88]

@redwatch: i wish! that's the one i'm looking to buy (maybe). I don't own it!

@stephane: will do. Thanks.

This forum is just amazing. I've been wandering here for a while now, it is time to donate!

[gavidoc]

[redwatch]

@redwatch: i wish! that's the one i'm looking to buy (maybe). I don't own it!

@stephane: will do. Thanks.

This forum is just amazing. I've been wandering here for a while now, it is time to donate!

Oh gotcha! Sorry for the confusion!

And yes, if you feel the "value added" benefits of this forum, a membership donation is the way to go!

Good luck with your search!

[Justasgood]

I have a brand new in the package Blue Insert for the Tudor subs.......PM if you want to start your parts accumulation :-)

[rolexmaniac88]

well thanks to everyone for all your help. i'm currently browsing non stop vintagerolexforum for my precious.

Here's one. However, i didn't know that it was possible to have snowflake hands with normal dial. Was a tudor ever issued like this?

[Justasgood]

well thanks to everyone for all your help. i'm currently browsing non stop vintagerolexforum for my precious.

Here's one. However, i didn't know that it was possible to have snowflake hands with normal dial. Was a tudor ever issued like this?

Nope.

[gavidoc]

IMO his asking price is a bit high for a 9401 with incorrect dial. I have never seen that dial for a 9401. Only the 7016 but that doesn't mean they don't exist. It was found on 7016's from around II 68 to late 1970 early 71 IIRC. Here is one that I owned.

That 9401 has a mid run serial. If the dial was replaced at service (with tritium markers) it should be either a snowflake or diamond dial. So, based on what I personally know, either it's a 7016 in a 9401 case (ask to see a photo of the movement) or it's a 7016 dial on a 9401. If that's the case, the dial feet are missing. OR, it's a new service dial variant I've never seen.

[Justasgood]

And here is the Insert: