niveknow Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Hello all, I picked up a Rolex with the asian 2836-2 recently. I decided on it over the swiss ETA based on the recommendations of several people on this forum. i.e. Save the $$$ and swap it out when it breaks down. I picked it up for the high-beat 28,000 which I understand is the same rate as on a gen, but it doesn't sweep as smooth as a gen. Of course, I can't expect it to be 100% as the gen, but I would expect 8 beats to be 8 beats period. Are there some high beats that run smoother than others? My sweeping hand seems to "wobble" so that makes it not sweep smooth. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 28800 is always 8 beats, but if the gear backlash is a bit looser in the gear train then the seconds hand will not look as smooth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niveknow Posted April 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Can that be repairs or tightened? And if so, then it would sweep smoother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Not it is all to do with the cut of the gears, nothing wrong with it at all though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niveknow Posted April 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 That's interesting, Andy. You're right nothing wrong with it, but like everyone on this board...we're all striving to get as close to gen as possible. So can it be serviced to sweep better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchurch Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Mine wasn't a nice crisp 8 ticks either (not a rolex, but movement is what I am talking about). I was thinking it could just get sloppy or something wasn't stopping and releasing the gear as smooth as it should or as clean as it should. I kind of thought it would clear up after getting serviced. I received a PM from someone who I will have looking at this watch (power reserve problem lasts anywhere from 4-6 hours on its back, to at most near 8 or 9 hours on the side) after I get paid next. When I get it back I will try to take another photo to see if it clears up any. Also if it is the gear or something along those lines I don't think it could be resolved without getting a new gear to put in place. link to my seconds hand moving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Some people have said that the lack of QC and improper oiling of Chinese movements causes some of this, and a full service might fix you up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 no not really,, and maybe even if you put a brand new eta 2836 in there you still wont be happy as you can see the ticks on that as well some times, i can see the tics on my gen IWC and on my Logines and my wifes omega aqua terra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchurch Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Some people have said that the lack of QC and improper oiling of Chinese movements causes some of this, and a full service might fix you up I am hoping so at least with mine. It is perfectly fine other than the power reserve lol. And I really don't see the seconds hand move regardless since it is a small one and I don't run the chronograph part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geo1nah2a Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 It might be out of beat too.That would explain why it might look like a stutter. 28800 should look smooth. A good calibration and oiling can do miracles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Ok a propper service may help a little as the oil will reduce play just a little and stop a bit of back lash but it would not guarantee it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Yes, certainly not guaranteed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niveknow Posted April 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 I don't expect a perfect sweep as you mentioned your gens clicking, but it should be smooth to some degree at 8 beats per sec. My second hand seems to wobble, so that also adds to the issue with the smoothness. You guys would know better than this noob, so hopefully it'll smooth out when it gets serviced. I just cant justify spending the $ on the service now when it's new. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickdick Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 (edited) ETA Clone or gen ETA, i've never seen a wobble on direct drive seconds movements. Perhaps you got a high beat DG movement. You should open the case and post a pic. Edited April 2, 2010 by slickdick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niveknow Posted April 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 I just ordered a watch wrench to take the back off of it, so will post pics as soon as I get a chance. Interesting stuff.... It came from Josh too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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