Caporione Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Hello together! I ordered this Pam 0036 with a Swiss Unitas 6497 Hand Wind 17J. Now im not shure if it is one. I think its a Asian Unitas 6497 Is this right? Thanks in advande! deLeone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Asian for sure, at least the balance wheel assembly is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caporione Posted April 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Thank you! That was not fine form the dealer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 The Swiss movement doesn't have that notch on the jewel. It's suppose to be a solid disk. Sometimes those dealers mix and match parts but from that pictures it sure looks Asian to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drulee Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Not Swiss, definitely Asian. Also wrong style movement for an 036. And wrong case material (case back says stainless steel, should be titanium). EDIT: You can see the CotesDeGeneves engravings under the "Panerai" plates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 The master has spoken Here's the right movement style for the 036 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 You can see the CotesDeGeneves engravings under the "Panerai" plates iirk, you're right. Very low quality work there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caporione Posted April 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 This is not ok by the dealer. I wonder what he says when I confront him so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 The Swiss movement doesn't have that notch on the jewel. It's suppose to be a solid disk. Sometimes those dealers mix and match parts but from that pictures it sure looks Asian to me. What notch on which jewel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 What notch on which jewel? Look at the balance wheel assembly. There are 3 types you will find: a straight notch (Asian), a solid disk (Swiss) and the T shaped incabloc (used in the gens like mine below). Sometimes the dealers replace a busted balance wheel from the Swiss movements with a cheap Asian one. So in their minds they are selling you a second hand Swiss with replacement parts. Dirty trick in my book. That movement looks straight Asian though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 got ya, i was looking for an actual jewel with a notch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krpster Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 You may also want to open it up to look for the missing swan neck adjuster screw. Appears to be absent and if it's floating around in the case somewhere that is trouble for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 got ya, i was looking for an actual jewel with a notch Sorry, should have expressed myself better. I should have said plate holding the jewel. A jewel with a notch wouldn't do much good to the wheel, would it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 Yep, definitely Asian based on the balance wheel, the metal surround on the anti-shock assembly AND the lack of the small dimple on the block where the mainspring connects to the regulator. Yeah, bridges are the wrong shape and you can definitely see the CdG stripes underneath the stuck on foil plates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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