carlitosway Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Hi Watch friends, I would like to buy a Panerai Submersible rep (only from EU), but I can not decide. What do you think, which Submersible is the best out-of-box-Rep.? Thanks. Carlito Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltatahoe Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 the 243 is pretty darn nice out of the box. one of my surprise favorite watches! deltatahoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlitosway Posted April 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 (edited) The 243 rep is nice, but the Round (steel) hash marks on the Bezel are to big. See the gen hash marks: and the rep hash marks: Maybe I need a high moded Pam Submersible Can anyone help me?????? Edited April 29, 2010 by carlitosway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooky Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 there are quite a few good subs. pam243, 199, 252 for example. The 243 has the coolest and toughest bezel & crown guard imo. And has quite good standard lume. The lume on the standard rep 243 is a bit better than the standard rep lume on the 252 for example (tested myself). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce79 Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 Wow, hate to jump on the band wagon here but yes, the 243 is the best sub imo...rep or gen. I had a couple and luved them. Just sold them because I got a gen 000 in. If I were to buy a gen pam sub, the 243 would be it. The reps kick ass though...very substantial watches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougaree Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 243 is better than 199? I thought people say 199 is the best... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXO Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 I like the Pam 187 Subzilla!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougaree Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Anyone knows how to make bezel on the Pam 243 tight? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drolson Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 (edited) Anyone knows how to make bezel on the Pam 243 tight? Thanks! The dental floss mod (wrap around the bezelan push it down with a razor blade). I like the Pam 194 the most. Maybe it´s not the most accurate, but it´s a monster. Too sad no EU based dealer can provide it. Would buy it instantly. :drool: Edited May 8, 2010 by drolson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 On the 194 the bummer is it is made of the wrong metal. Should be ti. One forum member did source one in ti a couple of years ago but never since. Everyone seems to love the 199. Never seen the ultimate in the flesh though. Want to laugh - my submersibles a couple of years ago all modded in one way or another: Now I am down to one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cskent69 Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 I love the subs too - but the loose bezel is too much for me to deal with. Also, alot of the earlier ones had the bezel markers fall out and get lost - which totally sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK471 Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 I've got a 243 that I'm pretty excited about. The Zigmeister lume, water resistant to 7 bar. And soon, it's going in for a Swiss 7750 install and Taka date wheel. Here is a pic I took today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXO Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 My Pam 187 SubZilla. It is definately a Monster!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK471 Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 On the 194 the bummer is it is made of the wrong metal. Should be ti. One forum member did source one in ti a couple of years ago but never since. Everyone seems to love the 199. Never seen the ultimate in the flesh though. Want to laugh - my submersibles a couple of years ago all modded in one way or another: Now I am down to one. What a collection, W! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prdubis Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 My Pam 187 SubZilla. It is definately a Monster!!! That's a nice one! What about the bezel on it? Is it tight or loose? Ultimate PAM199 looks great, but it's terrible when rotating the bezel...Sounds sooo cheap! What about your 187? Thank you for your answer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXO Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 That's a nice one! What about the bezel on it? Is it tight or loose? Ultimate PAM199 looks great, but it's terrible when rotating the bezel...Sounds sooo cheap! What about your 187? Thank you for your answer! The Bezel is definately not as tight as a Gen. But it is tolerable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougaree Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 Has anybody taken the bezel apart and see if it can be improved? Using dental floss can work, but it doesn't appear to be an elegant solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertk Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 The 199 is flawless. The 243 and 199 are the best out of the box versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 What a collection, W! Thanks. What a collection it was. They are all gone except for the 170 and the 243. I still have a few franken parts laying around though in case they ever come up with a better version 24 or 87 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 Just came back from the AD. The 243 is not even close to the gen in person. From the bezel to the brushed finishing it looks a completely different watch. I didn't even recognize it until the dealer mentioned "243". I love my rep but that's not accurate at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 Just came back from the AD. The 243 is not even close to the gen in person. From the bezel to the brushed finishing it looks a completely different watch. I didn't even recognize it until the dealer mentioned "243". I love my rep but that's not accurate at all. Don't be a spoil sport. It's not that bad. But I do have to say IMHO all the bezels look awful relative to the gen for various reasons (other than the original 24A - after it was polished)- markers too large, too proud of the bezel, misplaced, too big or engraved horribly. Brushing you can improve upon greatly though. As you can tell above I have bought and modded a few to the nth degree and was still never perfectly happy. And this was the principal reason. I still have never seen an ultimate 199 in the flesh though. Couple of people who I respect seem to really like their pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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