plaifender Posted June 27, 2010 Report Share Posted June 27, 2010 Hey guys, I'm not a big expert on IWC watches, but I have a friend that's very interested in a Portuguese non-chrono. I'm not sure about it's accuracy or it's quality.. Does anyone have any advice or know if there have been any reviews on the subject? I can't seem to find anything on this version using the search feature, so I apologize if I may have overlooked something. Thanks. -Fender p.s. this is the watch in question taken from puretime's website: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted June 27, 2010 Report Share Posted June 27, 2010 it is nice, i have worked on one, the power reserve works and shows 7 days but it will wind down to zero in two days, date wheel is a little low. But a nice watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooky Posted June 27, 2010 Report Share Posted June 27, 2010 Yep, what Andy said. Date wheel is low. The AR is quite nice and it is sapphire as advertised. I confirmed it with a electronic tester. Bottom display case is mineral glass though. Highly recommended on this watch is to give the bearings of the rotor a good sticky grease. Because the rotor makes quite a lot of noice. On all of these movements (had several go trough my hands and I greased them all). The strap is so so. rep quality. The deployment is quite nice. All in all a nice watch for a decent price. If I recall I still have a HKTAN croco strap, like new, in black. don't know the size though and don't know if suited for deployment, if interested, shoot me a pm, I could take a look. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted June 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2010 Thanks for the responses guys.. anyone got a link to a review anywhere? Anyone know if this watch is available with an ETA movement or only Asian "21j"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted June 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 anyone done a review of this watch??????? We're 25,000 people strong here.. i mean there has to be someone.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooky Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 Thanks for the responses guys.. anyone got a link to a review anywhere? Anyone know if this watch is available with an ETA movement or only Asian "21j"? Only the 21j. ETA is not available for this movement. Because no ETA movement is able to replicate both the functions and the way the gen looks from the display case back. just my 2c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praetor Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 (edited) ^ agreed. Gen uses an in house movement with a 7 days power reserve. I was researching this watch and it turns out that it has too many flaws to satisfy my obsessiveness and doesn't have the capability to be modded much: 1) Date wheel wrong color 2) Subdial spacing; needs to be further apart. 3) date window position; needs to go down a bit 4) hands look flat (maybe just dealer picture) I think the regulateur is a nice substitute for this watch, maybe someday Edited June 28, 2010 by praetor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 Only the 21j. ETA is not available for this movement. Because no ETA movement is able to replicate both the functions and the way the gen looks from the display case back. just my 2c. This is not the normal A21j that we would find in a sub based on the myota though, this is a seagull (forget the reference) 21j that you see in may other IWCs including the Pig pilot. Noisy rotor but a good movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted June 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 Thanks guys for all the responses. Sounds like it has quite a few flaws.. I can get the watch new for 120euros so despite its flaws It seems to pay good tribute to the spirit of the original design. certainly worth considering for 120euros. Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostin500 Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 This is not the normal A21j that we would find in a sub based on the myota though, this is a seagull (forget the reference) 21j that you see in may other IWCs including the Pig pilot. Noisy rotor but a good movement. FxrAndy, I just recieved one and I cant seem to fihure out how to set the date there seems not to be a first position on the crown? Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted July 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 FxrAndy, I just recieved one and I cant seem to fihure out how to set the date there seems not to be a first position on the crown? Any thoughts? The date is set by the button on the side.. it looks like a Helium valve.. but it's a date changer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wat44 Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 concepta does not do this watch, or id be all over it. im told the best version is currently not available - Robert will tell me when its back - so I'll post here when he does, if you like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostin500 Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 The date is set by the button on the side.. it looks like a Helium valve.. but it's a date changer... Perfect thanks plaifender, I wondered why this watch would have a HE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted July 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Perfect thanks plaifender, I wondered why this watch would have a HE. post pics of yours boostin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostin500 Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 post pics of yours boostin! Not the best pic, will take more later but here it is fresh out the womb. I gotta tell you this is a great feeling and looking watch, Love it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted July 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 does your portuguese suffer from noisy rotor like many i've head of...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostin500 Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 Indeed. I wish I could fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravoecho Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Hey there fellas, I found this REVIEW for gen. models. But gives much more detail than anywhere you can find to compare. e.g. up to now I was not aware that those rep dials have the markers pasted onto them, while the gen has the number markers embossed (punched out from the base of the dial) and a nice photo of course... I'm always in for a proper replica of this watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 That is why some people put a gen dial into their IWC rep. A gen strap makes a huge difference as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted July 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 That is why some people put a gen dial into their IWC rep. A gen strap makes a huge difference as well. a gen dial wouldn't work on this watch unless you found a gen movement as well with date at 6 o'clock.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wat44 Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 whos got the best 7days Portuguese, then? (and dont say AD!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostin500 Posted July 16, 2010 Report Share Posted July 16, 2010 Not the best pic, will take more later but here it is fresh out the womb. I gotta tell you this is a great feeling and looking watch, Love it! Here is a couple of quick blackberry pics, of all the watches that I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted July 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2010 whos got the best 7days Portuguese, then? (and dont say AD!) there is only one version of this watch. Anyone that has this watch will be giving you this version. So it's not a question of "WHO" has the best version.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravoecho Posted July 16, 2010 Report Share Posted July 16, 2010 So where your beauty came from Here is a couple of quick blackberry pics, of all the watches that I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wat44 Posted July 16, 2010 Report Share Posted July 16, 2010 there is only one version of this watch. Anyone that has this watch will be giving you this version. So it's not a question of "WHO" has the best version.... robert from t4d tells me that he can get 2 versions of this watch, but currently the best version is out of stock, so I must wait... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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