PilotI Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Hi all, i have a wonderfull PAM111h but i'm really missing the date function and a working chrono and now in the market for a 250 Before i go out and spend 6K euros on a 250 i would like to know if there is anybody here that can find me a Franken Pam 250. I had a look at davidsen's PAM196, the movement is good but it has quite a number of flaws, the crown being an absolute no-no and it's an old model. I'm looking for something really really close to the gen 250. if you have any ideas let me know. Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 There are many new pams,the Daylight series using the new A7753 being one of them. Most If not all of are trusted dealers have this rep. There are also several reviews of this rep here,do a little research,wont be hard to find,good. luck:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Hi all, i have a wonderfull PAM111h but i'm really missing the date function and a working chrono and now in the market for a 250 Before i go out and spend 6K euros on a 250 i would like to know if there is anybody here that can find me a Franken Pam 250. I had a look at davidsen's PAM196, the movement is good but it has quite a number of flaws, the crown being an absolute no-no and it's an old model. I'm looking for something really really close to the gen 250. if you have any ideas let me know. Max The new 250s are supposed to be excellent. At least as good as the new 111j and 177L's that just came out last month. These were the pams that started the "1:1" pam craze! they came out in sep/october if i'm not mistaken: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 another post from Mickey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PilotI Posted February 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Thanks guys, that's really helpfull. Do they provide these with a swiss ETA movement as well or only asian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Thanks guys, that's really helpfull. Do they provide these with a swiss ETA movement as well or only asian? pretty sure no swiss.... In any case, The Zigmeister did an EXTENSIVE review of the new 7753 movements in this watch and concluded that they were quite decent as long as you get them serviced. The movement he reviewed came rather dirty and under oiled in some parts, over oiled in others... But with good servicing this movement should last you forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PilotI Posted February 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 pretty sure no swiss.... In any case, The Zigmeister did an EXTENSIVE review of the new 7753 movements in this watch and concluded that they were quite decent as long as you get them serviced. The movement he reviewed came rather dirty and under oiled in some parts, over oiled in others... But with good servicing this movement should last you forever Thanks for the information, i just read the review. Which vendor would you recommend to the best 250? I do think i'll have somebody swap out the A7753 with a swiss 7753 movement, i'm a bit fussy when it comes to movements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Thanks for the information, i just read the review. Which vendor would you recommend to the best 250? I do think i'll have somebody swap out the A7753 with a swiss 7753 movement, i'm a bit fussy when it comes to movements I would think all of are trusted dealers have these reps. Read a few dealer reviews then decide what dealer Is best for your needs. The truth is you wont go wrong with any of RWG's trusted dealers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PilotI Posted February 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 I would think all of are trusted dealers have these reps. Read a few dealer reviews then decide what dealer Is best for your needs. The truth is you wont go wrong with any of RWG's trusted dealers. thanks i just sent a message to king to see if he has this in stock, i don't see the model on his site. I do see he has the swiss movement, maybe be can make me one with swiss movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 thanks i just sent a message to king to see if he has this in stock, i don't see the model on his site. I do see he has the swiss movement, maybe be can make me one with swiss movement. If he does find one with a swiss movement. Expect to pay close to $800usd. Not worth it in my opinion.. Even if you do get a swiss movement, you better make SUREEEE you get it serviced. Just because it's swiss doesn't mean it will run any better, especially coming from China Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PilotI Posted February 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 If he does find one with a swiss movement. Expect to pay close to $800usd. Not worth it in my opinion.. Even if you do get a swiss movement, you better make SUREEEE you get it serviced. Just because it's swiss doesn't mean it will run any better, especially coming from China yes you are right i just got word from king, he's offering a 250 with a swiss 7753 for $825usd, that's expensive to some but it's still only a 1/10th of the price of a gen + plenty of cash left get the movement serviced. He said he'll be back at work the 11th, i'll put in my order then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pabler Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 yes you are right i just got word from king, he's offering a 250 with a swiss 7753 for $825usd, that's expensive to some but it's still only a 1/10th of the price of a gen + plenty of cash left get the movement serviced. He said he'll be back at work the 11th, i'll put in my order then. When you receive it, please post pics and if possible a review! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PilotI Posted February 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 When you receive it, please post pics and if possible a review! Sure mate. In the meantime enjoy my 111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 yes you are right i just got word from king, he's offering a 250 with a swiss 7753 for $825usd, that's expensive to some but it's still only a 1/10th of the price of a gen + plenty of cash left get the movement serviced. He said he'll be back at work the 11th, i'll put in my order then. Plus plenty of cash left to get the movement serviced??? I guess for some.. money is no object... (it just sounds a little haughty for someone to say that, after willing spending over 800usd on a rep.. and not a franken one at that.. ) In any case.. I´m sure you´ll enjoy it. Make sure you get some QC shots before shipment. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Here's a very close to the genuine PAM250 http://www.1-pc8838.com/pn25001-250k-daylight-chrono-ssle-black-asian-7753-p-9174.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cskent69 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 That would he very interesting news. Since the dial from the current A7753 does not work with the e7753. Are they making different dials especially for e7753 models? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cskent69 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 That would he very interesting news. Since the dial from the current A7753 does not work with the e7753. Are they making different dials especially for e7753 models? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PilotI Posted February 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 That would he very interesting news. Since the dial from the current A7753 does not work with the e7753. Are they making different dials especially for e7753 models? I'll double check with King. He said the 250 is currently only available with the swiss 7753, not with the A7753, which probably indicates the movement is not a straight swap. King's message: > Dear my friend I have it. But this one only has Swiss eta 7753 version. The > Asian 7753 version does not available yet. Dear my friend the watch is us$825 including shipping cost already Anything need help email to me Your friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 I'll double check with King. He said the 250 is currently only available with the swiss 7753, not with the A7753, which probably indicates the movement is not a straight swap. King's message: This Infomation does not sound right. The new 250 Is avalable with the A7750,there are several reviews of that watch here. I would double check all Info,sometimes the language barrier can muddy the waters,sort of speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 This Infomation does not sound right. The new 250 Is avalable with the A7750,there are several reviews of that watch here. I would double check all Info,sometimes the language barrier can muddy the waters,sort of speak. +1 maxman I've never heard of any watch ONLY being available with swiss 7750. P.S. maxman.. this watch is not available with an A7750... You meant to say A7753 i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 +1 maxman I've never heard of any watch ONLY being available with swiss 7750. P.S. maxman.. this watch is not available with an A7750... You meant to say A7753 i think Thanks for the correction sir,yes I meant A7753. I guess I had the A7750 on the brain because my older 250 model has that movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PilotI Posted February 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 This Infomation does not sound right. The new 250 Is avalable with the A7750,there are several reviews of that watch here. I would double check all Info,sometimes the language barrier can muddy the waters,sort of speak. I agree, i asked him pictures of the 250 and the movement but he's back on the 11th he told me. King's probably celebrating new year as we speak. I'll keep you guys posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 I agree, i asked him pictures of the 250 and the movement but he's back on the 11th he told me. King's probably celebrating new year as we speak. I'll keep you guys posted. Sounds good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cskent69 Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Sorry guys, wanted to clarify my statement. The new A7753 watches can have their movements swapped with an E7753 movement - many have done this already (my good friend in Canada has done this for me for one of mine). However, you have to have a dial that fits the E7753 movement since the datewindow position for the A7753 was not put in the same spot as is needed on the E7753. The only way to get a Daylight dial that has the E7753 position is to get one from DSN. His dials for the E7753 are ok - but not as good as the new Daylights dials. Specifically the PANERAI lettering on the dial is not as accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fi5herman Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Believe the eta 7753 version is old stock. Currently version is with A7753, but the dial wouldn't fit an eta 7753. Previously, i mean at least a year ago, Daylight PAM have both A7750 and eta 7753 versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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