brucesreps Posted April 12, 2011 Report Posted April 12, 2011 I recently sold a Ceramic submariner to a member here. Movement was 21j auto and worked great. The watch was sold to the member for $100 + shipping costs. This member is now complaining about the flaws of the watch. Stating the crystal is crooked and when the crown is in a certain position the watch stops? I have never heard of that one before. Buyer claims I did not disclose the flaws in the sales thread. I explained to him that if I had known about these so called flaws, I would have disclosed them. I never bothered with looking at the watch that carefully. It worked when I got it, that was enough as I don't expect 1:1 for $100. I mean I could understand if the watch had arrived DOA, but it did not. Here is the sales thread: Anyways, to the point. If you expect a "perfect" non-flawed watch then buy the GEN as a rep will NEVER satisfy you. What do you expect out of a $100 rep? Even a $500 rep will have its flaws. Hell, even some gens have flaws. No one item will be truly perfect no matter how much you pay for it. Why are members so anal about the such minor flaws in these budget reps? It truly pisses me off. Sorry, had to vent.
BGGodwin Posted April 12, 2011 Report Posted April 12, 2011 It's because they want (and expect) a gen for a rep price...
Dave123 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Posted April 12, 2011 Annoying stuff like this is why i ended up finding it easier to just give them away.
maxman Posted April 12, 2011 Report Posted April 12, 2011 Sucks when shi t like this happens ,good luck with the resolution.
brucesreps Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Posted April 12, 2011 It's just total BS. I hate when people expect 1:1 in these cheapie, budget reps.
praetor Posted April 12, 2011 Report Posted April 12, 2011 lol yea, my wm9 isn't even perfect, I had to reshape one of the lugs.
brucesreps Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Posted April 12, 2011 I mean hell, the guy is complaining the crystal is 1/2 a mm off! WTF! I looked at the pics in the sales post and you can see the crown at 6 slight misalignment to thr right about 1/2 mm or so. Some people are just too anal about these reps.
praetor Posted April 12, 2011 Report Posted April 12, 2011 it's not about how anal you are. It's about expectations. I'm super anal when it comes to details, but I know what to expect from the rep world. I'm more concerned about wanting to improve my reps rather than complaining about it. Even manufacturing my own parts if I have to.
brucesreps Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Posted April 12, 2011 But complaining that a crystal is 1/2 mm off? That is just too much.
redwatch Posted April 12, 2011 Report Posted April 12, 2011 Seems like a perfectly good test piece to start learning how to fix this stuff yourself, I'd say This won't be the last rep or gen watch that comes through that has flaws.
brucesreps Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Posted April 12, 2011 Seems like a perfectly good test piece to start learning how to fix this stuff yourself, I'd say This won't be the last rep or gen watch that comes through that has flaws. Personally, I didn't and still don't see anything wrong with the watch at all. I never bother looking for these SLIGHT imperfections because I know what they are..... budget reps. I would have just left it alone if I had kept it. But heck, I had 2 subs. I'd hate to see his reaction to my other one! Date mag is 1.5 mag, cg's too sharp, crown slightly missaligned, no lume, crystal is off 1mm, and a few more flaws. But for $35 I'm not complaining. It is a 21j rep that I wear DAILY.
BGGodwin Posted April 12, 2011 Report Posted April 12, 2011 With that kind of watch, as long as it keeps good time! Besides, it's not a grail... people are going to see it and say "Rolex", not "that crystal looks funny!"
gran Posted April 12, 2011 Report Posted April 12, 2011 The larget difficulty with replicas is when the movements prove to be faulty in one way or another...there is so much pain in having to send the watches all over the place to have them serviced and improved for hard earned $...sometimes the replica simply stop running even if you have given them this tender loving care ...but that is a problem with genuine mechanical watches also
sarkazz Posted April 12, 2011 Report Posted April 12, 2011 Why are members so anal about the such minor flaws in these budget reps? It truly pisses me off. Partly, because when people buy anything second-hand, they assume that "something must be wrong with it", and try to find even the smallest reason "Aha! That's why he sold it". With budget reps, it's not really that hard, is it?
brucesreps Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Posted April 12, 2011 I posted my $35 sub in the tuesday wristcheck thread. I don't care about the never ending amount of flaws. It keeps good time and does it's job. Here it is again:
brucesreps Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Posted April 12, 2011 Well now we know why you are not fussy. What's that mean Dave? LOL
Dave123 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Posted April 12, 2011 Well,even Stevie can see that is one nice rep,like you,he is not fussy either....
brucesreps Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Posted April 12, 2011 It's a beater. I know it isn't perfect. But why complain?
Dave123 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Posted April 12, 2011 I have always said my problem with wearing reps is i cant leave the house with one on. I dont think i could leave my bathroom with that Rolex on... All good man,just kidding around.
brucesreps Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Posted April 12, 2011 I know you're kidding around Dave. This is the one rep I've vowed to keep. It is maybe +/- 2-3 sec per day. Keeps fabulous time. For $35 you can't beat it.
maxman Posted April 12, 2011 Report Posted April 12, 2011 All my reps have flaws,some more than others. Im not investing thousands upon thousands,so I live with the flaws or correct them If possable. If I purchase 1000.00 plus watch It better be perfect,or dam close. When I spend a $100.00 for a replication of multi thousand gen,no big deal. This hobby Isnt for everyone,case In point.
brucesreps Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Posted April 12, 2011 Exactly. I told the buyer "If you want perfection, buy a GEN. But even then, there will still be flaws".
Jkay Posted April 12, 2011 Report Posted April 12, 2011 If a canal st sub makes you happy @35, then the $48 noobmariners must make you pass out with joy. i should get 2 ....
brucesreps Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Posted April 12, 2011 Actually its a watcheden sub, not a canal st. sub.
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