tessa Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 Theres dealer wholesaleoutlet990 on ebay selling crystals. Are there any good and do deg fit a pam111 and pam253? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prdubis Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 I have a pam212 domed crystal in transit, will tell you more when I will receive It (this week I guess) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 not really. Poor AR and expensive. The H factory crystals are a LOT better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 wholesaleoutlet990 has a mixed bag of goods, and a mixed reputation .. some people do not trust them at all. My own experience is that they have supplied genuine ETA 2824 movements at a reasonable price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 nothing wrong with the seller but I'd stay away from their PAM crystals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tessa Posted April 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 nothing wrong with the seller but I'd stay away from their PAM crystals. Ok any other suggestions get gen or good pam crystals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 OEM crystals are very expensive and hard to find. What many have been doing is to get the 117L, the 219L or the 005k/318, keep the crystal and sell the other parts. You can get any of those for around $200. After you sell the parts the crystal ends up being less expensive than any source and only losing to the OEM (which would cost more than any of those models). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tessa Posted April 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 OEM crystals are very expensive and hard to find. What many have been doing is to get the 117L, the 219L or the 005k/318, keep the crystal and sell the other parts. You can get any of those for around $200. After you sell the parts the crystal ends up being less expensive than any source and only losing to the OEM (which would cost more than any of those models). ok but the does any of the kristals you talk about fit the pam253 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 the new ultimate 253I has a very good crystal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prdubis Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 the new ultimate 253I has a very good crystal. ...but still mineral, right? Sent from my GT-P1000 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tessa Posted April 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 the new ultimate 253I has a very good crystal. why do you say that . its not sapphire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 so what if it's not sapphire? In person it's hard to tell the difference with the gen. People get too concerned about mineral vs sapphire but few people can actually SEE the difference. I'd rather have a very clear mineral crystal vs a cloudy sapphire. I assume your looking for a crystal that will visually be closer to the gen. The ultimate does that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prdubis Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Mineral crystals are really more fragile and will scratch more easily, that's all... Sent from my GT-P1000 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 from what I've heard those domed crystals are quite complex to be done with sapphire. You need an external and internal convex specification that have to align perfectly. Since sapphire is harder that process becomes quite expensive. I'm not aware of anybody that would supply a 253 sapphire crystal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prdubis Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 WsO990 have one for sale, I think I will get it tbis week and will shoot pics. Sent from my GT-P1000 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OiRogers Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 I have a pam212 domed crystal in transit, will tell you more when I will receive It (this week I guess) Looking forward to feedback on that crystal... Domed sapphire with the AR they offer? Just "rediscovered" a 212 I got in a trade a few years back, put a decent strap on it and I've been in love... I may have to grab a newer version and upgrade to sapphire. If not a 212, one of the other 2 subdial chronos is certainly on my short list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mambo Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 I have a 212 crystal from wholesaleoutlet990 installed on my Pam .... This is the result ( done by FineDD ) It wasn't an easy fit according to Uwe, some adjustments had to be made with the crystal gasket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteM Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 Nice pics mate.... Clear to see it aint like the gen.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mambo Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 Indeed definitely not like the gen ... But for me an improvement over the mineral crystal ( this is not the recent Ultimate 212 but an older version .... ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prdubis Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 Sorry to ask, but what are the differences with the gen? Mine is at the post office, I'll pick it up later this afternoon... I think I will wear my ult 212 as is, and will replace the mineral Xtal with the WSO one when it'll be badly scratched... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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