Pentax1 Posted April 27, 2011 Report Posted April 27, 2011 I would like to know if any one has any pictures of a IWC 3717 case(with out the Parts) I want to see if I can maybe make a copy of it in Solid 18K rose Gold,I plan to 3D scan and then Cast a mold and all excess parts shaved off by a CNC router final finish by my trusted jeweler and Fitted with Concepta Original Parts I already have another project in Process making a Rolex 16610 Solid Gold case Any help would kindly be appreciated Thanks Pentax
torresp Posted April 27, 2011 Report Posted April 27, 2011 I already have another project in Process making a Rolex 16610 Solid Gold case Interesting project, if you can do it count me in for 1 sub case ! Please keep us posted
wiesn089 Posted April 27, 2011 Report Posted April 27, 2011 Cool project, let us know how it turns out!
slickdick Posted April 27, 2011 Report Posted April 27, 2011 Ill take one sub also, depending on the outcome. Id also like a solid gold 16(0)(x)xx case.
Pentax1 Posted April 27, 2011 Author Report Posted April 27, 2011 I will send you pics my friend Thank you Concepta Much appreciated
Pentax1 Posted April 27, 2011 Author Report Posted April 27, 2011 Interesting project, if you can do it count me in for 1 sub case ! Please keep us posted Thanks for the Interest not doing it for a business, but would be glad to help you get one made for your self too if I manage to finalize it for my self
torresp Posted April 27, 2011 Report Posted April 27, 2011 Thanks for the Interest not doing it for a business, but would be glad to help you get one made for your self too if I manage to finalize it for my self That would be great, thanks.
Orion1632 Posted April 28, 2011 Report Posted April 28, 2011 Are you going to make a 3d cad model of it?
Pentax1 Posted April 29, 2011 Author Report Posted April 29, 2011 Are you going to make a 3d cad model of it? yes that is the First Step
Orion1632 Posted April 29, 2011 Report Posted April 29, 2011 yes that is the First Step What are your cad skills like? Let me know if you need help, I am a cad pro.
Pentax1 Posted April 29, 2011 Author Report Posted April 29, 2011 What are your cad skills like? Let me know if you need help, I am a cad pro. My Cad Skills are Null, But I have a company that I have spoken to that will do all the Scanning and molding, its then up to me to Find someone that will do the Laser Marking and etching or Routing of the Brand name. Of which I have already found a guy that can do it for me Do you have a door to a 3D Scanner ??
Pentax1 Posted April 29, 2011 Author Report Posted April 29, 2011 Ideas like these just make me love this place Check My Profile pict.... Thats a Solid Gold Rolex President Rep with ETA2836-2 Gen Dial and Gen CRown and Tube Rep Solid Gold Case Made Exact 1:1 purchased in Hong Kong Last year
Orion1632 Posted April 29, 2011 Report Posted April 29, 2011 Do you have a door to a 3D Scanner ?? I don't have a 3d scanner as I normally contract that out. Are you scanning an actual case? I thought you were asking for photos?
Pentax1 Posted April 29, 2011 Author Report Posted April 29, 2011 I am going to scan a WM9 16610 V3 , I wanted pictures of a 3717 to see how the case is constructed in order to see the difficulty of the design.
Orion1632 Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 In my experience the 3d scans are not that smooth and there's lots of work needed cad wise to make it work. Best of luck to you, let me know if you need any help.
Texski Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 I think you would be better off using a digitizer and a set of calipers, a height guage, then model it in CAD. The digitizer would make it faster/easier, but is not necessary. Just make sure your CAD file is compatible with the CNC. Good Luck!
Pentax1 Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Posted April 30, 2011 In my experience the 3d scans are not that smooth and there's lots of work needed cad wise to make it work. Best of luck to you, let me know if you need any help. Thanks as I have been informed by the guy who will do the 3D scanning our problem though is as we want to make a wax mold we are not sure should we make it bigger or smaller so that the result will be 1:1 Talking in terms of Microns
chefcook Posted May 1, 2011 Report Posted May 1, 2011 Bigger of course ... a lot bigger! In a mold this small you will have at least 4% shrinking during cool down period and I highly recommend to produce a case with at leas 0.5mm grinding allowance. You won't get sharp edges out of the mold and you need a sufficient grinding allowance to give the case a real 1:1 shape.
Pentax1 Posted May 1, 2011 Author Report Posted May 1, 2011 Thanks for the information Do you think that I could cast a Mold of the Approximate design and then Route the angles on a Lathe ? or that is not such a good Idea?
Orion1632 Posted May 1, 2011 Report Posted May 1, 2011 You using a CNC milling machine? I would do an exact 1:1 cad model, then take that model and make a moulding model with shrinkage allowance + machining allowance. And when you machine it, leave some allowance for polishing too. I believe the gen would just be cut from a solid piece. As it's gold..... Melt down the swarf !
Orion1632 Posted May 1, 2011 Report Posted May 1, 2011 Oh and I'll play with a block of aluminum first till I get it right, then use gold! Things rarely work out right first time.
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