gran Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 MiniReview Chopard Mille Miglia GT XL Chrono Product Details on Genuine Watch Item number: 16/8459-3001R Brand Name: Chopard Style Number: 16.8459R Also Called: 168459-3001R Series: Mille Miglia GT XL Chronograph Style (Gender): Mens Case Material: Stainless Steel Dial Color: Black, two-level Movement: Automatic C.O.S.C. Engine: 28,800vph, 16½''' lignes (37.22 mm diameter), 25 jewels Valgrange ETA A07.211 Functions: Hours, Minutes, Small Seconds at 9, Chronograph, Date Crystal Material: Sapphire - Anti Reflective Case Diameter: 44.0 mm Case Thickness: 14.35 mm Caseback: Sapphire Crystal - Transparent Exhibition Back Bezel Material: Stainless Steel Bezel Function: Fixed Mass: 128.0 g Water Resistance: 100m / 330ft (suitable for swimming and shallow snorkeling; unsuitable for diving) Crown Material: Stainless Steel Calendar: Magnified Date at 3 Watch Bracelet / Strap Material: Rubber - Black with Dunlop tread pattern Watch Clasp Material: Stainless Steel Deployant Hidden Folding Clasp Max Wrist Size: 8.5 inches Watch Bracelet Width: 21.5 - 23.0 mm Additional Info: The iconic Mille Miglia for 2007/2008. Conclusions: 1. There are many versions of this watch so be careful 2. At least three different true chronograph movements are found in these. 1. Asian 7750 (slower beat), 2. swiss 7750 (very expensive)28,800bph and 3. Asian a07.211 (my favorite)28,800bph 3. Only the a07.211 movement is the correct size (linge) for this watch A. The one I have: At perfect clones/Joshua The Asian version is about $418 = CP02002 Mile Miglia GTXXL Chrono SS Black A07.211 Reg 28800 (Best version I have seen with my own eyes, but markings on rotor is sticker and not engraved) Description by dealer: This is made with a Genuine as sample MOVEMENT: Asian 07.211 28,8800bph with functional regulator CASE DIAMETER: 44mm THICKNESS: 14.2mm DIAL COLOR: Black Dial with Stick Markers (Red Needle Sec Hand) CASE MATERIAL: Solid Stainless Steel 316L BRACELET: Resilient Rubber Strap with Deployant Clasp FRONT GLASS: Superb AR Coated Sapphire Glass (Swiss Gen standards) BACK GLASS: Display Case Back with detailed engraving on caseback rim BEZEL: Tachymetered bezel HACK MOVEMENT: Yes CLASP TYPE: Deployant Folding Buckle with insignia DATE INDICATOR: At 3:00 position WaterProofed to 30m DateWheel is directly mounted All parts are 1:1 exchangeable with Genuine Full functional Chronograph B. SWISS 7750 Version is about $800 at perfect clones/Joshua= CP02102 Mile Miglia GTXXL Chrono SS Black Swiss 7750 28800 (I have not inspected this version) C. Asian 7750 Version (I have seen with my own eyes) but the crystal (curved?) and other parts are not so nice. No AR. But the more accurate rotor is to be found on some of these (= engraved rotor ) 4. Genuine has no blued screws om movement 5. Watch is very similar to the genuine (save the differences seen on movement such as engraved serial number) 6. The better versions of this replica works, looks and feels like the genuine 7. Rubber strap and metal clasp are pretty much as good as on the genuine 8. Movement of the seconds hand for the chrono function is likley smoother on the genuine one 9. Lume is often hopeless on the replica 10.AR is very well applied on some replica versions (= the more expensive ones) 11. Warning stay away from the quartz and non functional chrono versions, be careful to get the correct crystal with AR Conclusion: This is my favorite looking CHOPARD. Well balanced dial, smooth bezel is a pluss and the colours (Black with some white and even less red bathed in polished steel) are just right. Link to white version: http://forum.chronomag.cz/index.php?/topic/31145-chopard-mille-miglia-gt-xl-chronograph-168459-3015/ My replica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronoluvvv Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 mannn i really miss my black GT XL now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted June 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Chopard mille miglia gran turismo xl chrono 158459 3001 This is the version with the SS bracelett Ｒef.15/8459-3001 (note that the regular with rubber strap is 16/8459-3001) 15/ seem to be an universal indicator of bracelet and 16/ a rubber strap Ther is a L.U.C version above and one that say Chopard in same place on back Official site: http://www.chopard.com/en/classicracing/millemiglia/mille-miglia-gt-xl-chrono-158459-3001.aspx#/en/product/158459-3001/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgematic1 Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 I'm confused by all the versions. Which version is the one to get and closest to the genuine article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted June 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 I'm confused by all the versions. Which version is the one to get and closest to the genuine article? Yes it is confusing...get the one with the valgarange size movement (=Asian 07.211) and then most likely you will get the best version in terms of case and AR, crystal, size ove movement etc.... without high resolution QC pics one is lost on this one.... obviously you may also get the $800 version with genuine ETA 7750 and that is probably better in terms of reliability (but not held that one in my hands so i am not certain) The worst and cheapest version with standard asian 7750 has poor quality and too rounded crystal....but has the best rotor (with engraved letters) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rek001 Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Gran, thanks much for the review, this watch has been on my wish kist for too long. I really need to get one before they are discontinuerd. What do you think of the gray dial with the 12 and 6 embedded in the crystal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted June 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Gran, thanks much for the review, this watch has been on my wish kist for too long. I really need to get one before they are discontinuerd. What do you think of the gray dial with the 12 and 6 embedded in the crystal? The grey is likely to be very accurate compared to the gen.I have heard only great things about it. There are reviews around on that as you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rek001 Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Thanks Gran! It's over $400 but I think I really need to get this watch, it's a super-rep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted June 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Thanks Gran! It's over $400 but I think I really need to get this watch, it's a super-rep. Glad to hear that..now do not forget the review when it arrives old friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Gran, thanks much for the review, this watch has been on my wish kist for too long. I really need to get one before they are discontinuerd. What do you think of the gray dial with the 12 and 6 embedded in the crystal? Me thinks the one you are referring to is one of the best out of the box reps ever. The solid case back and a more interesting dial made it my choice (years ago) over the standard XL chrono. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgematic1 Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Me thinks the one you are referring to is one of the best out of the box reps ever. The solid case back and a more interesting dial made it my choice (years ago) over the standard XL chrono. I'm having troubles deciding as well! I'd pick one with a valgrange a07 211 movt. might swap it out later. But then, which one is the closest? standard XL chrono, LE2007 or LE2008? (have not seen the 2008 yet on the forum)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted June 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 http://www.repgeek.com/showthread.php?t=28120 http://www.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/chopard-gtxl-full-review-plus-23994.html?t=23994&highlight=GTXL%20full%20review%20compro http://www.repgeek.com/showthread.php?t=105182 These links may help you on the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgematic1 Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 thanks for the links, I still find it strange no one has jumped the white 2008 version, it seems somewhat closer to the gen IMO. Especially because the reflection of the grey dial still is a bit different from the gen in some angles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primrose Hill Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Chopard Mille Miglia GT XL Chrono I am very interested in acquiring one of these so 'thank you' for your excellent review. I would get the Swiss 7750 movement but for that price I would prefer the S/S bracelet version. (15/8459-3001). Sadly I cannot find one among the TD's I use but I wondered, seeing the photos of one on your review if there is someone else who could supply that particular version. I have seen it on the Chopard website but nowhere else. Any guidance would be really appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenTLe Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Swiss ETA in a rep? Com'on mate, you'd better read some more around here. Start from my signature link for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primrose Hill Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) Very helpful - not ETA, but as described: Swiss 7750. Thank you..... http://www.ttw888.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=261_371&products_id=5886 Edited September 22, 2014 by brucemaccormack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenTLe Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 It's the same. Valjoux has been purchased by ETA. You'd better take the Asian 7750 and when you'll have problems with it THEN change it with a real gen 7750. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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