Olivax Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Hi, I'm building another 6263 with V72 using DW parts but I'm not so convinced about the dial. Does someone knows a better source? Btw I'm looking for a silver dial. If someone has a gen at a good price, I might consider it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Not sure gen 6263 dial & 'good price' are compatible, unless your definition of 'good' = high. DW's dials vary, depending on what he receives from the factories. His best are about the best aftermarkets I have seen. You might also check out imgod's dials on ebay (he only posts when he has dials for sale). If you want to go the distance, consider replacing the crown on whichever aftermarket dial you use with a gen part, which you will need to source from ebay or any of the gen watch forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivax Posted June 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Thanks Freddy, I'll check imgod. I didn't mention it but i will use gen crown/tube and gen plexi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 I'll check imgod. I didn't mention it but i will use gen crown/tube and gen plexi. Sounds good. I forgot to add that a gen (rivet or folded link) bracelet will do wonders, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivax Posted June 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 I have already a gen 7835 Only need 271 endlinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhooq Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Only need 271 endlinks These are very hard to come by, and they won't be cheap if you do. Take the best price you can find for 571s, then expect to pay at least double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivax Posted June 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 I already know that... No rep available of those endlinks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbaddds Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 I already know that... No rep available of those endlinks? 7205 w/ 71 endlinks! Damn it's $$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 Actually, all things considered, it is a very good price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivax Posted July 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 If i could afford buying it i would go for a gen 6263 ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 I can quote RA on this one: Or try to find a gen V72/727 and a gen dial - which will be a fake - I am not jocking. Check out his post. Great stuff 6263 on RWG1.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiesn089 Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 I can quote RA on this one: Check out his post. Great stuff 6263 on RWG1.1 There are plenty of non-fake gen dials around. Depending on the dial versions your are looking at a minimum of $1500 for an acceptable one, a lot more for the rarer ones. You will need to be careful and know the various different versions though, Mazzariol's book "Rolex Daytona a Legend is Born" is a good starting point. Generally speaking the aftermarket dials are easily identifiable by their printing. Especially the minute markers and the subdial fonts aren't as crisp and fine as on gen dials. From hands distance this isn't noticeable really, but once you are nearer then it becomes pretty obvious. The difference a gen dial makes is incredible, though in my opinion it isn't worth it if you don't invest in a lot of other gen parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flex Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 if I would build one with a replica dial, i would use a black one. The silver gen dial has this brushed look and its very different at certain angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhooq Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 There are plenty of non-fake gen dials around. Depending on the dial versions your are looking at a minimum of $1500 for an acceptable one, a lot more for the rarer ones. Like a Sigma, maybe? If you're willing to spend USD 3000 right now, it isn't hard to find a genuine 6263 dial (or even a 6239) in good shape. The tricky part is spending less than that. It's often shocking what people will bid for a dial that looks like it was fished out of a septic tank! As wiesn089 says, the print quality of most gen dials is very fine and detailed. I say "most" because there are some black Daytona dials -6239s, mostly- that have indistinct, milky print. (This is not uncommon for certain matte dials from the 60s and 70s.) Another tell is the Singer coronet, which has never been replicated properly. It's always possible that someone transplanted a coronet from a cheaper gen dial, so don't use the coronet as a litmus test. The subdials are another tell, as I don't think any aftermarket dial has gotten both the profile and the texture right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torresp Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Like a Sigma, maybe? If you're willing to spend USD 3000 right now, it isn't hard to find a genuine 6263 dial (or even a 6239) in good shape. The tricky part is spending less than that. It's often shocking what people will bid for a dial that looks like it was fished out of a septic tank! As wiesn089 says, the print quality of most gen dials is very fine and detailed. I say "most" because there are some black Daytona dials -6239s, mostly- that have indistinct, milky print. (This is not uncommon for certain matte dials from the 60s and 70s.) Another tell is the Singer coronet, which has never been replicated properly. It's always possible that someone transplanted a coronet from a cheaper gen dial, so don't use the coronet as a litmus test. The subdials are another tell, as I don't think any aftermarket dial has gotten both the profile and the texture right. USD3000? Seriously, let me know where U can get a black 6263 for 3k, I'm looking for one of those and haven't find below 4k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhooq Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 USD3000? Seriously, let me know where U can get a black 6263 for 3k, I'm looking for one of those and haven't find below 4k This was from a few months ago, on VRF. Not sure if the seller still has it: Fs: stock rolex batch 6263 / 6265 dial, NEW ! NEVER NEVER USED. Asking price 2000 euros (it has 1/3 reduction from last price)shipped. Can also supply NEW SET OF HANDS for extra 300 euros. Refund policy, happy to refund if not genuine and not as described. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiesn089 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Like a Sigma, maybe? Haha, yeah something like that... If everything goes well, it'll be finished in about two weeks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhooq Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 NOS 6265 bezel? Fantastic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebzen02 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Jesus! That is pretty!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 I have asked this before, but I need to know which manufacturer has a Daytona rep dial that fits the ST19 movement. Or if someone has a rep dial that they would like to sell that fits this movement, for a vintage project that will be grand. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valty Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Haha, yeah something like that... If everything goes well, it'll be finished in about two weeks... Love that ! (I already said that... ) I'm currently building the same... except my dial is not sigma... Hope it will be finished soon Just a question - do you used crystal / crown / tube provided by J&W ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiesn089 Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Love that ! (I already said that... ) I'm currently building the same... except my dial is not sigma... Hope it will be finished soon Just a question - do you used crystal / crown / tube provided by J&W ? Thanks . I didn't, crystal is a gen T21 service replacement as are crown and tube (703). I only used Phong's midcase. You can find a list of all the parts I used here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 I'm finishing my build soon. Cannot wait E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valty Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Thanks . I didn't, crystal is a gen T21 service replacement as are crown and tube (703). I only used Phong's midcase. You can find a list of all the parts I used here. I obviously already seen (many times) your post I wanted to know because I'm currently thinking about buying a J&W case kit, and they claims crystal / crown / tube are genuine. What differences have you found why gen part you bought ? $1500 is absolutely incredible for a kit where you can only use the mid-case... Or are they selling only the mid-case ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiesn089 Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Yes, Phong is selling midcases only, you just need to ask and he will alter his price accordingly (and then there's still some room for negotiations). I don't think that the parts Phong sells are genuine, why would they be, after all he's making his living from selling aftermarket parts. I wouldn't risk paying his prices for things which might very well turn out not be as advertised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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