chaussettevelo Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 Hello everybody, I'm a French man, living next to Saint-Malo (Britany). I have a 16520 case (N serial), without the movement. I have bought a Zenith el primero 3019 phc movement to place into my case but it doesn't fit perfecly into. The two pushers chronograph don't fit with the pushers case. Is a Ebel 134 movement could fit perfectly inside my rolex case? Thank you very much. Stephane
Guest zeleni kukuruz Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 Very nice project you have going on! And i would love to see it finished... I cant help you, but i know the knowleg is onely seconds away so just relax help will cime soon Good luck m8...
HauteHippie Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 Hmmm the 3019 should fit. Ubi has a gen case with the Ebel version, which I also have in my phong case. And as memory serves, el primero 400 = 3019.
chaussettevelo Posted October 22, 2011 Author Report Posted October 22, 2011 Yes, I have always read 3019=400 but it's a really thing, my pushers don't fit perfectly with the puschers of my movement (3019) ,and it's a Rolex case. I don't understand anything. Thanks to help me.
chaussettevelo Posted October 23, 2011 Author Report Posted October 23, 2011 (edited) Few pics about my problem with the pushers movement doesn't fit with the pushers case. http://hpics.li/c22bfad http://hpics.li/f058f36 http://hpics.li/3c5f73d http://hpics.li/e3efd0e http://hpics.li/15497e8 http://hpics.li/b67fab9 http://hpics.li/a081f85 Edited October 23, 2011 by chaussettevelo
marsupilami Posted October 23, 2011 Report Posted October 23, 2011 this is not a genuine rolex case. laser etched engraving between lugs, and wrong pusher location.
prdubis Posted October 23, 2011 Report Posted October 23, 2011 On 10/23/2011 at 5:16 PM, marsupilami said: this is not a genuine rolex case. laser etched engraving between lugs, and wrong pusher location. +1 --- I am here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=45.516258,-73.561066
Guest zeleni kukuruz Posted October 23, 2011 Report Posted October 23, 2011 Well the cg looks crazy for a daytona! But maybe thats just the light and pic? Realy hope you didnet spend all your euros in your madras!
HauteHippie Posted October 23, 2011 Report Posted October 23, 2011 I have to agree with the others. That case is the problem, not the movement. Hope you didn't get scammed on the case.
chaussettevelo Posted October 23, 2011 Author Report Posted October 23, 2011 (edited) Zeleni, What does "CG" please? I have paid this case 45 euro on Ebay 2 years ago....Oufff! Edited October 23, 2011 by chaussettevelo
Guest zeleni kukuruz Posted October 23, 2011 Report Posted October 23, 2011 On 10/23/2011 at 5:54 PM, chaussettevelo said: Zeleni, What does "<acronym title='Crown Guard'>CG</acronym>" please? I have paid this case 45 euro on Ebay 2 years ago....Oufff! 45€ well then your safe i thought this was a gen case you hade or thought you have! CG (crown gard) is the thing surounding the crown.
prdubis Posted October 23, 2011 Report Posted October 23, 2011 45 euros for a gen case?! I'm sure you were aware it was fake at this price! Sent from my GT-P1000 using Tapatalk
chaussettevelo Posted October 23, 2011 Author Report Posted October 23, 2011 What do you think about this case for replacement of my "fake case" please? http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200646380707&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_723wt_642
Valty Posted October 24, 2011 Report Posted October 24, 2011 Bonjour de France, Stephane To be clear, there is only 5 ways to have good cases here : cartel dealers (Josh, Andrew, etc.), DW, Yuki, NDT, or Phong. I think you should consider buying a Phong's case kit if you have money, and if you do not want to bother about movement fitting. NDTrading is also selling a case, but it's IMO a bad case, like I said in another thread. I don't think DW or Yuki selling 16520 cases. And cartel do not provide any El Primero-based cases... So... I think the Phong choice is your only easy way to have a correct case : http://www.jewelryandwatch.com/ Guys, please correct me if I'm wrong Movement who are not fitting is a common problem when you are making a Rolex rep with El Primero or Valjoux 72x. Especially with El Primero, if I trust what I seen before The case you have here on eBay is a 7750 case. I guess your current case is also a 7750 case. This will never fit an El Primero R.
chaussettevelo Posted October 24, 2011 Author Report Posted October 24, 2011 Many thanks Valty. And many thanks to everybody answers to me.
chaussettevelo Posted October 24, 2011 Author Report Posted October 24, 2011 But why the 7750 case doesn't fit with zenith 3019? These movements have the same size caliber (13 1/4) Is it the pushers doesn't fit again? Thanks
wiesn089 Posted October 24, 2011 Report Posted October 24, 2011 Height for one is very different, an El Primero is 6.5mm, while a Valjoux 7750 is 8.1mm.
chaussettevelo Posted October 24, 2011 Author Report Posted October 24, 2011 Height is an important problem?
Watchmeister Posted October 24, 2011 Report Posted October 24, 2011 On 10/24/2011 at 5:21 PM, chaussettevelo said: Height is an important problem? Yes. The movement and dial have to sit at a certain level in the case for proper rehaut and the crown and pushers then have to line up with the case as well.
ubiquitous Posted October 24, 2011 Report Posted October 24, 2011 Stem height is crucial for this particular project. If the stem is not center inside the case tube (i.e. the stem is too high/too low) the stem is going to snap.
chaussettevelo Posted October 24, 2011 Author Report Posted October 24, 2011 Ok! You are great. Thanks a lot.
sneed12 Posted October 24, 2011 Report Posted October 24, 2011 On 10/24/2011 at 6:18 PM, ubiquitous said: Stem height is crucial for this particular project. If the stem is not center inside the case tube (i.e. the stem is too high/too low) the stem is going to snap. Yup. I just broke 4 stems this weekend, trying to cheat this truth on a project I dunno why I kept thinking "maybe this time it'll work!"
chaussettevelo Posted October 27, 2011 Author Report Posted October 27, 2011 (edited) It's Mr Phong will make the job. Wait and see... Edited October 27, 2011 by chaussettevelo
chaussettevelo Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Posted January 14, 2012 I have my watch!!! Phong was doing the job, wonderfull! I try to put pics.
chaussettevelo Posted January 30, 2012 Author Report Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) The pics are not goods but the watch is beautiful. My 16520 project is finish. What's next? Edited January 30, 2012 by chaussettevelo
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