Jkay Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 So a co-worker who knows I like watches gives me this piece to look at. Certainly old .. perhaps a woman's lapel watch converted to the wristwatch. It has an onion crown, a ceramic dial with silver inlay and something I am not certain of .. a button with guards next to the crown. It could be a safety to prevent changing the time unless it is depressed ... or ... something I have not heard of. Opening the back, it's a solid top plate so you cant see a thing except that the hairspring is an exploded bird's nest. Metal "jewels" and "Swiss Made" stamped on the plate, and a series of silver marks and other marks on the case back interior The Pictures: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabularasa415 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 You depress that button to adjust the time. The crown on this watch does not pull out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Back in the day many companies took their basic pocket watch, added strap holders and voila.....a wristwatch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justasgood Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Sterling silver case and as WM points out, push in the button to adjust the tie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted January 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 I want to look up the hallmarks and decipher them. The .925 hallmark is obvious but the Omega symbol and the others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted January 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Also, the balance staff does not seem to be broken but the hairspring is a tangled junk heap. Do hairsprings just let go?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted January 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Ok so thanks for all the comments so far. I had some time today to chase down the meanings of silver hallmarks .. This watch is from 1918/1919, it was assayed in London, England .. it's importer used the assay office registered monogram "SP" and I do not know what the large G is for, yet ... perhaps the Swiss maker of the movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted January 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 OK .. perhaps the final update. Now that I know the date of manufacture, some quick eBay'ing reveals this to be a classic WWI Officer's Trench Watch. I wonder what marvelous stories it could tell .. brought back to the USA by a doughboy .. perhaps a memento of a lost British comrade ... whew! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain swoop Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) If it was silver from london it would be marked with a Lion for Sterling Silver and a Leopards Head for London followed by a letter for the date mark. The shield looks like the date mark for 1918 a 'gothic' lower case C in an inverted shield Your Omega mark is for Silver imported into London That Makers Mark isn't listed as a London maker as it is imported That's why there is no Lion for Sterling SIlver and no Leopard for London I see here http://www.silvercol...rhallmarks.html or here http://www.925-1000....tish_marks.html Edited February 9, 2012 by captain swoop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 SWISS silver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain swoop Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Could be as it is a swiss movement but they were widely used. It needs someone who knows what European makers marks are or who the London importers were in 1918. I am guessing it is a watch imported by a wholesaler and then sold on by a jewellers. It will be the importer who got it marked with the date letter and the Omega London import mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain swoop Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) I have found a London mark for SP associated with Imported Watches for 1912. It is S.P. not a plain SP and it is in a rounded shield not one with a raised top like on your example. Unfortunately it doesn't say who used the mark just 'Imported Watch' I have a feeling it is a foreign mark already on the watch when imported hence it being positioned apart from the other marks. Edit to add. Just did a bit of research. There can't be a Makers Mark added in London as it is imported. That mark will be Swiss. All that can be put on in London is a date letter, silver 925 purity mark and the import mark. Edited February 9, 2012 by captain swoop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain swoop Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 OK found out the letter G is the mark for Geneva, that narrows it down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Interesting piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 G is the mark for Geneva, that narrows it down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain swoop Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 I have found examples of imported Swiss Watches with a Swill Makers Mark and a London retailers mark so the mark on this watch is still up in the air. Wrist Watches were just for ladies up until the war, men had pocket watches. Wrist watches became popular with Officers in the trenches but the only ones available in the UK were for ladies that's why they look quite delicate and 'feminine' After the war it was OK for men to wear a wristwatch as they were then associated with the brave war heroes. By the 1930s Wristwatches outsold pocket watches for men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Wow so much helpful info almost a month after I completed the thread. Thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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