Guest oliviermenard92200 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Looks like a good reproduction part, but I could be convinced otherwise if it came with proper provenance or was sourced through a well-known, long-time vintage Rolex dealer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oliviermenard92200 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Thank you Freddy but I follow you the only way to be sure is to know the seller I bought as a gen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Just knowing the seller does not guarantee anything. The seller has to have a track record of selling 100% genuine Rolex parts for many years. A lot of well-known sellers have mistakenly sold aftermarket parts as genuine. Unless the bezel came in a sealed Rolex package directly from an AD (or Rolex), you can never be 100% certain. Post your bezel on VRF & see what they think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhooq Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 From the pictures it looks like a good genuine Mk I, or a very good reproduction. It might help to take very detailed macro shots, so we can better assess the quality of printing. Maybe an extreme close-up of the 'UNITS PER HOUR'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsupilami Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 I have the same bezel. is the text printed silver or white? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oliviermenard92200 Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Which year is a MK1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oliviermenard92200 Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh575/xabrolex/DSCF0973.jpg http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh575/xabrolex/DSCF0972.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielv2000 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I saw your post on VRF. Not a single response (last I checked). Sometimes, I don't get those guys, super knowledgeable but other times, they just ignore. It looks pretty good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 VRF often ignores posts containing rep parts, which is what I think this is. oliviemenard - you might want to add something like 'Can someone please help me out?' to your original post on VRF. No guarantee that will work, but if you still get no response, I would seriously question the authenticity of that bezel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roliroli Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 rep. printing is not fine and exact enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oliviermenard92200 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Thank you guy but but I will not conclude it is fake because I have no answer on VRF ! I am waiting for more argument For me it Is gen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oliviermenard92200 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 another pics here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oliviermenard92200 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 http://www.rwg.cc/topic/142541-my-last-daytona-project/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roliroli Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Thank you guy but but I will not conclude it is fake because I have no answer on VRF ! I am waiting for more argument For me it Is gen so why do you ask if it's gen for you anyway? I have 2 gen bezels in front of me, trust me, your's is fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeodatus Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Don't take my word for it but this is how the older gen looks like (note the "hour" spacing and the 4 tail in 140). on more recent MK1 the 4 tail on 140 is not connected, but the font is sharper (the "hour" is more evenly spaced as well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsupilami Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 comparing yours with pics from the book "daytona, a legend is born" it should be a first generation genuine bezel. It looks great anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiesn089 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 so why do you ask if it's gen for you anyway? I have 2 gen bezels in front of me, trust me, your's is fake. There are at least (!) four different versions of this bezel from various periods of time. They vary greatly in font thickness, execution and other departments. I have handled some of them and without comparison with another one from the same batch I highly doubt anyone is able to tell rep from gen. There is also the possibility that during a service or under other circumstances a gen 6263 bezel might have been exchanged for another non-screw down Daytona (they fit). Without further evidence to support your claim I don't think it would be very wise to just "trust" you. I also don't think I'm the only one starting to get tired of hearsay being labeled as the one and only truth when it comes to vintage Rolex parts. Let's face it, often not even Rolex themselves let alone many selfproclaimed expert collectors can definitely say what has been produced and/or used to service watches in the late 60s and 70s. That being said, that bezel looks pretty good, but I have also seen very good aftermarket parts from some Italian sellers at watch shows before. If it fits enjoy your watch, I know I would with that one installed. Despite the newer version MKIV replacement bezels from RSC very few people on the internet will be able to definitely tell from pictures whether your bezel is indeed genuine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhooq Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 on more recent MK1 the 4 tail on 140 is not connected, but the font is sharper (the "hour" is more evenly spaced as well) Based on the shapes of the '4' and '5', doesn't this one look more like a "post-production" bezel? I hesitate to say Mk3 or Mk4, as I agree with wiesn089: Pace the Mazzariol book, there are definitely more than 4 distinct versions of the black Daytona bezel. For example: A rounded 'S' should indicate a service bezel, right? But I've seen examples with pointed '4's, and others without. Valerian's bezel tripped me up recently, due to the distance of the tachy marks to the inner rim. Turns out there's some variability in that respect, too, so that could mean 6 different sub-types of that bezel. And then there are the stainless steel bezels... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeodatus Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Just called my new watchsmith, (cool 70+ year old fella with eyes of a 20 year old) He thinks that at least 4 different versions of the bezel exist + 2 "service" versions that he knows of, but he's not 100% sure. Disregard my MK1 remark, obviously it isn't. Anyway out these: gen on the left, service on the right: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 oliviemenard - How does your bezel compare to this version of a service bezel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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