archierocks Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 hi guys i have just got a pam318 from josh with a asian 6497 movement its running about 3-4seconds a min fast had a look at the movement last night and everything looked ok i have had it o and off today noticed it was way out just there and its def 3-4 seconds fast each min should i send it back or just try to regulate it myself any tips on this movement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seafoam Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 These are fairly easily regulated. You could try that first and possibly save yourself a lot of headache sending it back. There should be plenty of info either here or Google as to how to regulate these but see the "+" and "-" on the back of movement and try adjusting there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archierocks Posted March 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 i thought that i just thought it might be going too fast for that to work will have a better look tomorrow when im back in the workshop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seafoam Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Make small adjustments and test it from there. Don't make too dramatic of a change at first adjustment. may just need a little push. Move small amount, test and move again accordingly and test...etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyd3 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 It's really tough to properly regulate a movement without a timing machine. If it's running that fast, something else is going on. The most likely culprit would be the hairspring. Have you tried giving the watch a couple of good thumps with the palm of your hand? It's worth a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archierocks Posted March 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 It's really tough to properly regulate a movement without a timing machine. If it's running that fast, something else is going on. The most likely culprit would be the hairspring. Have you tried giving the watch a couple of good thumps with the palm of your hand? It's worth a try. i have not tried to thump it lol wont that damage it further Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
URkuk Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 As I recall, someone once wrote a tutorial on the "thump" method of regulation. If your watch is running 3 sec/min fast then 3 thumps crown up, if it's 3 seconds slow 3 thumps crown down. If that does not work drop it in a bucket of 50% water 50% kerosene for a day or 2, that'll slow that bad boy down... Please DO NOT "THUMP" YOUR WATCH. Take it to a skilled watchmaker unless you don't care for it, if not "thump" away... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfovco Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Any local watchmaker can adjust that in a couple of minutes, happened to me once with a PAM rep and a local place did take care of it for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambone Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 I have had a few watches that have stopped with the 6947 movt. Usually this was caused by a small shaving or screw becoming dislodged. They did start running again with a small thump on the palm of my hand. This is temporary and it will stop again. All the 6497's have a regulator on them which will work to speed up or slow down the watch. Thumping is not the best idea, and no mater how much you like the watch, "humping" it is not advisable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Archie, it is not difficullt to regulate a 6497 but if it is running that fast then i would say you have two coils in the balance spring touching, Find an old school watchsmith (i am sure you can find one with your contacts (just dont go to an AD) and with a timing machine he will be able to sort it in minuets few! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archierocks Posted March 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 i spoke to a friend of mine this morning who is a proper watchmaker hes going to come have a look at it but could be a few weeks :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latara785 Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 As I recall, someone once wrote a tutorial on the "thump" method of regulation. If your watch is running 3 sec/min fast then 3 thumps crown up, if it's 3 seconds slow 3 thumps crown down. If that does not work drop it in a bucket of 50% water 50% kerosene for a day or 2, that'll slow that bad boy down... Please DO NOT "THUMP" YOUR WATCH. Take it to a skilled watchmaker unless you don't care for it, if not "thump" away... And please DO NOT "DROP" YOUR WATCH in a bucket of water and kerosene for a day or two either, thanks. LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentYYC Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 (edited) It's really tough to properly regulate a movement without a timing machine. If it's running that fast, something else is going on. The most likely culprit would be the hairspring. +1 Very probably a hairspring problem if it's running that fast. That's not a simple regulation issue. I had a used swiss watch shipped to me, and it was running about 4 secs/min fast out of the box. I took it to a watchmaker and it took him all of five seconds to diagnose that the watch had been jarred, causing the hairspring to wind itself around part of the movement and run super fast. Chances are that same sort of thing happened to yours in transit. As long as nothing has been damaged, it's a cheap repair ($30 in my case). Edited March 19, 2012 by BrentYYC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archierocks Posted March 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 it was a simple fix i stripped down most of the movement bit of a clean and re oil and we its been running great had it checked and im very please with the watch and the service from josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latara785 Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Good to hear that, Wear it well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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