mojako Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Somehow I am not conviced this is GEN.. something wrong with the rehaut... and the strap (definitely wrong). What do you guys think? http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-ROLEX-TUDOR-PRINCE-SUBMARINER-MODEL-94010-SERIAL-903XXX-/221156932288?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item337dfafac0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d4v1d Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 yes sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojako Posted November 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 So its a gen? Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krpster Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Odd bracelet. Polished middle links definitely look out of place. Doesnt mean not gen necesarily, just odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai153 Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Watch head looks OK, definitely and aftermarket bracelet. This watch comes with a 93150 Oyster bracelet and 580 end links. I doubt that either of those are present on this watch, hence no detailed photos of the bracelet and clasp. Problem here, to make it right, it's going to cost another 500-1000 USD for a genuine bracelet and end links. If you're interested, I would ask the seller for more detailed photos of the bracelet and some of the clasp. Here is a genuuine 9411/0 for comparison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromatic Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Somehow I am not conviced this is GEN.. something wrong with the rehaut... and the strap (definitely wrong). What do you guys think? http://www.ebay.com/...=item337dfafac0 Description we believe this watch was made in the 1950s ? where did they get that info from well the seller has 100% positive feedback mabe some sellers who dont know about watches purchase a fake and sell it on ebay not knowing it is fake but we would never know if they knew or not always check the small print mabe somewhere you may read (we believe this watch to be a gen ,no returns accepted ) these are vintage watches that are over 40 years old so expect them to have different braclets ,refinished dials aftermarket insert and so on. i think this is gen im not expert but lets face it the tudor flake is the easiest to fake than a rolly due to there available eta.movements Edited November 22, 2012 by aeromatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromatic Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Somehow I am not conviced this is GEN.. something wrong with the rehaut... and the strap (definitely wrong). What do you guys think? http://www.ebay.com/...=item337dfafac0 rehaunt is correct there are two types depending on the age of the watch this rehaunt is what i call ridged type flat on top. this type of rehaunt was used on date subs including (redsubs) some redsub reps have it and a 26mm dial can be fitted due to the width of the rehaunt like the 2846 eta redsub reps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavidoc Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Somehow I am not conviced this is GEN.. something wrong with the rehaut... and the strap (definitely wrong). What do you guys think? http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-ROLEX-TUDOR-PRINCE-SUBMARINER-MODEL-94010-SERIAL-903XXX-/221156932288?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item337dfafac0 Watch is gen. Bracelet is aftermarket. The rehaut can be deceptive. More noticeable with a domed crystal due to the curve of the crystal which amplifies it. Younger 9401 and 9411's this lip is slightly wider then on older specimens. Compare these two snowflakes I own. The wider rehaut is a 914xxx serial and the older a 789xxx serial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojako Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 thanks for all the inputs. Let's see how this pans out... Gavidoc, your watch sold pretty fast huh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mapman57 Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Gen watch - aftermarket plexi looking at condition and distortion 1979 case 903xxx serial - looks correct for that Aftermarket bracelet and EL's - quite common in Tudor subs as early 9315 folded bracelets fell apart etc Originally came on a 9315/380 bracelet and end link combo Nice fat font serif insert Seen a lot worse........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 I am with everyone else. Head looks gen. Bracelet obviously not. The seller is a legit jewelry seller and he makes no assertion about the whole thing being original or bracelet gen. Unfortunately, it is written in EBay watch speak. If the price stays close to where it is you will be in good shape to pick up a new bracelet and still be ahead of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromatic Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 One Question as im building a 94010 blueflake were these watches fitted with tudor shield logo clasps i have found a tudor rep clasp but its the short buckle type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai153 Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 One Question as im building a 94010 blueflake were these watches fitted with tudor shield logo clasps i have found a tudor rep clasp but its the short buckle type Look at the photos of my genuine 9411/0 above. That is a genuine 93150 w/ correct Tudor clasp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromatic Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Look at the photos of my genuine 9411/0 above. That is a genuine 93150 w/ correct Tudor clasp Thanks panarai153 ! which watch was fitted with this style rafflestime clasp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavidoc Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 One Question as im building a 94010 blueflake were these watches fitted with tudor shield logo clasps i have found a tudor rep clasp but its the short buckle type Original subs Pre 79090 came with Rolex clasps on 9315's with 380b end links. Modern Tudor replacement is a 78500 with Tudor clasp which is the Tudor 93150 equivalent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromatic Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Original subs Pre 79090 came with Rolex clasps on 9315's with 380b end links. Modern Tudor replacement is a 78500 with Tudor clasp which is the Tudor 93150 equivalent. Thanks gavidoc ! so i ca not use the rafflestime clasp on my 94010 build? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavidoc Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 You can though I personally would not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromatic Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 (edited) You can though I personally would not. Sorry for bombarding you with questions ! did the blueflake 94010 come with tudor clasp and rolex or both? also im planning to use a 2784 eta would this be correct for the 90410 period the 2784 fits the tudor blue flake dial perfectly the case im using for the build has a 2846 eta which correct me if im wrong is not correct for a tudor sub i dont know much about the tudors, thanks in advance ! the 94010 was fitted with rolex logo crown only? Edited November 24, 2012 by aeromatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavidoc Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Sorry for bombarding you with questions ! did the blueflake 94010 come with tudor clasp and rolex or both? also im planning to use a 2784 eta would this be correct for the 90410 period the 2784 fits the tudor blue flake dial perfectly the case im using for the build has a 2846 eta which correct me if im wrong is not correct for a tudor sub i dont know much about the tudors, thanks in advance ! the 94010 was fitted with rolex logo crown only? Originally comes with a Rolex but a Tudor will work. 9401 uses a 2776 which is the no date version of the 2784. A 2784 will work. All subs post the 7xxx designation use a high beat movement. Only the 7928, 7016, and the 7021 use a low beat movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromatic Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Originally comes with a Rolex but a Tudor will work. 9401 uses a 2776 which is the no date version of the 2784. A 2784 will work. All subs post the 7xxx designation use a high beat movement. Only the 7928, 7016, and the 7021 use a low beat movement. Thanks gavidoc! i have both 2784 and 2824-2 eta,s the dial im using is a 94010 flake i will have to replace the tophat on the cartel case im using i can not find a gen tudor so i will try clark crystal i see so many different crystals dome and flatter types . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavidoc Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 9411 uses a t-125 76100/79090 uses a t-140 9401 uses a t-19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromatic Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 9411 uses a t-125 76100/79090 uses a t-140 9401 uses a t-19 Thanks i see you know your thing about tudors thanks for the info ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromatic Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 who does the best snowflake hands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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