1030 mvmt help needed

[cc33]

Hi guys, I need some help. I know I should have asked first but I saw this for sale on ebay at 5-6am this morning and didn't have time to post.. Can you guys tell me if you can tell from these pics that this 1030 is ok. I know a lot about the big crowns but still can't tell if a movement is complete or has replacement parts. Any help would be great, if its ok ill pay the man tomorrow. Thanks in advance.

[cc33]

Is it missing the pinion for the seconds hand? I don't see it.

[ubiquitous]

The only thing that really stands out to me is that there should be a little figure 8 looking piece affixed to the cap jewel on the dial side of the movement.

[cc33]

Ok, thanks I see it in a stock pic I have, this is what you mean right?

[ubiquitous]

Yeah, that's it...

 

And you're right; I don't see the seconds hand pinion either. But maybe it's just recessed below the top/opening of the cannon pinion (hopefully).

[cc33]

Lol, we used the same stock photo, what are the chances of that! Thanks a lot ill ask my watchmaker if its an easy fix

[freddy333]

Ditto above. Missing sweep seconds pinion, escape wheel cap jewel & end piece; all difficult parts to locate.

[cc33]

Thanks Freddy

[automatico]

The main trouble with the 1030 was the rotor axle bearing...if it is Ok along with the autowind assembly bushings, everything else usually holds up all right.

Rotor axle bearings are very hard to find.

[freddy333]

You can probably source a generic cap jewel that fits (available from all watch parts houses). But things like the sweep seconds pinion and end piece are, to the best of my knowledge, unavailable in generic form & will be difficult to source.

[sneed12]

So, you bid and won before you decided that you were going to pay for the item?

[cc33]

Yes, it was 6am I wasn't thinking clearly. He had great feedback and wrote that it was in perfect running condition

[cc33]

Prob saved someone else a headache as well because he was dishonest in the description, here it is..

Very clean Rolex cal. 1030 movement from late 1950s for very early Submariners and many other Oyster Perpetuals. It is complete and is in fully working condition. Tested for time keeping. It is absolutely accurate. Movement

[freddy333]

Were it me, I would email the seller & point out the missing components. Explain that the movement you received does not match the description of the movement in his auction. Ask whether he shipped you the wrong movement? If not, ask for a full refund & note the experience in your rating.

[cc33]

I haven't paid Freddy, I wanted to verify what he wrote which was that all the parts were there and it was running. Once I found out from you guys that a few parts were missing I promptly emailed him with that information. He acted like he had no idea and that he's not a watchmaker.. He offered to cancel the transaction and I accepted. Case closed. I'm still on the hunt for a 1030

[cc33]

No, he was very clear, "It is complete and is in fully working condition"

[freddy333]

I do not see how it could run well without the escape wheel cap jewel & end piece. The escape wheel would be wobbling horribly, which, if that did not stop the movement, would cause it to run erratically, to say the least.