1932polo Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Correct me if I'm wrong, I've read a few reviews on the explorer II black dial (noob) a few people have said the white is more accurate as the black dial should be matte, but looking at real life gen pics as well as videos and the dial looks glossy... The image shows the reflection from the dial beneath the hands, there are plenty other pics from that website that show this also... I have just purchased a white dial noob but contemplating changing my order to the black. HELP?!?!? http://www.blowers-jewellers.co.uk/new_rolex_explorer_2_216570.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmtlover Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 I think no one ever said it is supposed to be matte, but that the noob dial was to glossy. And that it should be more matte, or less glossy;-) just what you like to hear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1932polo Posted July 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 I think no one ever said it is supposed to be matte, but that the noob dial was to glossy. And that it should be more matte, or less glossy;-) just what you like to hear Haha! So in your opinion, would you have gone with the white? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtguk Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Black is the way to go, for me anyway personally I love mine glossy or not (it's in between I reckon) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmtlover Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Haha! So in your opinion, would you have gone with the white? haha I have the white..;-) And very happy with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtguk Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Very nice mate, lume looks great on that one too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmtlover Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Very nice mate, lume looks great on that one too Thanks! only the top of the 12 o'clock marker is a bit wobbly. But only visible with pic or with your eye on top of the watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhooq Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Have you looked at the actual Exp II at an AD? The finish of the black dial is identical to that of a Milgauss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lartamia Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Have you looked at the actual Exp II at an AD? The finish of the black dial is identical to that of a Milgauss. Very interesting! The dial in the video looks mate indeed, but on the fotos still grossy... Gesendet von meinem iPad mit Tapatalk HD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmtlover Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Ok. to settle this once and forever..the dial is not matte..here is the proof.. Just look at the reflection on the dial! Even the hour markers reflect on the dial. Like I said, it might be less glossy then other rolex dials but certainly not matte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lartamia Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) Ok. to settle this once and forever..the dial is not matte..here is the proof.. Just look at the reflection on the dial! Sure. But 'mate' would be more gen-like than 'glossy' right? Edited July 28, 2013 by Lartamia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmtlover Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 I do not agree.. Less glossy is still 180 degrees from matte Just look at laptop screens.. There are matte and glossy... Ok? Totally different. Now this. Would you call the screen of an iphone 5 more matte or glossy? I think you would say glossy. Right but did you know that the screen of an iphone 5 is almost 30% less reflective than its predecessors ? But we still wouldn't say a matte iphone 5 screen is more gen like than an glossy or do we? Or would you replace the broken screen with a matte one? And I think this dial maybe around the same.. Maybe 30% less glossy or so.. I really wouldn't know the exact numbers. But he it's just my opinion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhooq Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 I am not going to argue about the precise reflective/refractive qualities of the 216570's black dial, but I will quote this: Two elements of the black dial appeal to me. The first is the charcoal, matte finish like that on the Deep Sea, rather than the glossy black on the other sports models. That's from Watches by SJX. The same article from which you pulled that photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1932polo Posted July 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 Thanks for your responses guys, I actually managed to make it down to bond street London this weekend (equivalent to Rodeo drive for the Americans) I was able to have a peek at one at watches of Switzerland. The dial doesn't look matte at all, its some what glossed but no where near matte or the equivalent! If there is a big difference in "dial gloss" (just made that one up) then the differences are unnoticable I was able to see a sub and gmt master in the same window it was very difficult to tell the difference in dial colour between the three. I'm actually going to go for the black dialled version based on this, does anyone know any "black dial issues" I need to be looking out for in my qc pics, other than the usual alined date wheel, alined rehaut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmtlover Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 I am not going to argue about the precise reflective/refractive qualities of the 216570's black dial, but I will quote this: That's from Watches by SJX. The same article from which you pulled that photo. I know what he said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaber Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Hi I got this gen Exp ii in my hands its 100% matte dial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1932polo Posted July 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Hi I got this gen Exp ii in my hands its 100% matte dialImageUploadedByTapatalk1375161631.102035.jpg Hmmm, interesting, so where does the reflection come from of the hands, the one I saw wasn't a solid matte like that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmtlover Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Was at an AD yesterday and certainly wasn't matte like yours. Maybe there are 2 versions like with the DSSD. That one also has a matte and glossy dial. There was a very long debate on that model too. But it was finally settled, there a two versions. Maybe they did the same with the Explorer II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcher Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Actually rolex describe the dial as satin!! So somewhere in between is where we need to be. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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