live1 Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 (edited) gen case and movement,gen crown,gen hands ,crystal,bezel assembly,and insert,and dial and braclet.is not a franken to me,its a hand built gen,to me a franken is every thing gen apart from case bracelet and movement like mine;) Edited June 25, 2014 by live1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aero_Dave Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 gen case and movement,gen crown,gen hands ,crystal,bezel assembly,and insert,and dial and braclet.is not a franken to me,its a hand built gen,to me a franken is every thing gen apart from case bracelet and movement like mine;) +1, I call my 16610 Sub a Franken. Some might try to call it a Super Franken, or Uber Franken but not me. Everything on mine is gen except the case,bezel ring,bracelet and movement. Although I do have some gen parts on my Y3135 movement also, like the date disc & main spring! Dave... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 How I view things: Homage - Looks like a well know brand/watch, but without infringing logos. (i.e. Sterile, Invicata Submariner, etc.) 0% genuine parts of actual brand Replica - Looks like a well known brand/watch, WITH brand logos. Will fool the uninformed, but probably not a WIS/us. 0% genuine parts of actual brand. SuperReplica - Looks like a well known brand/watch, WITH brand logos. (e.g. 1:1) Will fool most people, but probably not 1 in 500,000 or actual watch maker/AD. 0% genuine parts of actual brand. Modified SuperReplica - See above, but with easily swapped genuine parts added to supplement. (Crystal, Bezel, Strap/Band) - 25%+ genuine parts Frankenstein - at lest 60% genuine parts, making it indistinguishable (externally) from a gen. Able to fool a watch maker/AD on cursory inspection (not opening it, operating it). > = 60% Gen Swap-Job/Conversion - Converting say a 1601 into a 1016, gen movement, with perhaps a non-essential aftermarket part or 2 (tube, crystal, hands, bezel) - 85%-100% Genuine Parts. Johnny Cash - "One Piece at a Time" (song reference) - 100% Genuine, scavenging parts as you find them, and building an actual genuine watch. NOT "Numbers matching" (Technically, the ultimate Frankenstein) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ww12345 Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Lol at the one-piece-at-a-time remark... That's actually a great list and falls pretty much in line with my values... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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