phwtan Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 Hi, I've been looking to get a Panerai and have been researching for a while. I've been looking ideally in the luminor range with the second hand at 9, with no date, with manual wind. I'm after a super-rep and was quite keen on the noob PAM111 v3 with asian movt with incabloc mod after doing some reading. But after some additional reading, decided that that there would be several tells on the glassback movement as I can't imagine a rep movement would be finished anywhere as nicely as a gen and that all it would take is some misprinted colour printing of the brand, for example, to give it away, in addition to issues with the swan neck, etc. So then I decided that a covered case back would be the way to go, so I pored through ALE's PAM reference guide and given my criteria above, managed to find 2 models that fit my criteria: PAM 318 (N factory) PAM 247 (H factory) What are your thoughts on these 2 models? Anybody have one of these, and if so, how do you rate it? What are the major and minor tells? Are there any other luminor super reps out there I should be considering? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 links? I doubt the 247 is available, it would probably have the better strap. The 318 has probably got the 005 dial so should be great. I'd go 247 but either would be a good choice. If they're available still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netniet Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 I would stick with the PAM 111 v3 for a first Panerai rep, it is one on the best out of the box Panerai reps you can find. Recently I have bought my second PAM 111 v3 which was modded, and is a bit closer to gen. I am really happy with it because it is an amazing watch, but my straps gets the most compliments. Dochere2 did the following mods: Genuine Y Incabloc installed Cannon Pinion has been flattened and polished Gold plated Hour Wheel Tinted Jewels to match gen Incabloc Cap Jewel Re-brushed Ratchet & Crown Wheels Polished bevel on the Ratchet & Crown Wheels Brushed Pallet Bridge Micrometric Screw mod Reshaped Swan Neck Movement has been fully cleaned, oiled, seals lubed and regulated Other Mods: The Crown has been polished quite a bit and looks great, much more gen like (now a 2 step process, awesome results) The Watch Case has been 3 stage buffed and looks better than factory new The Crown Guard has been worked a bit, it snaps extremely tight, edges lightly chamfered, CG Pin flattened and edge ever so slightly beveled, polished & slightly recessed, roller polished Watch was pressure tested to 5 Bar And finally, a gen for comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phwtan Posted June 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Thanks for the advice! I was looking at Toro's stock for the 318 and 247, but in recent days, have started to lean towards either a 005 noob or 111 noob v3. The dial of the 111 looks amazingly accurate, but the glassback would be a tell, even with the incabloc mod. Netniet, your mods look fantastic! Was it expensive to get it all done, if you don't mind me asking? The 005 looks great too, but I've read that the sausage lume can look quite different from a gen. Any experience between those two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phwtan Posted August 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 I ordered a 111 from dochere2 and it should be arriving this week! cant wait to receive it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinkis Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Go for a NOOB 005 or 000. You can't go wrong. Just make sure to get a different strap. Maybe a nice dirk or Mr Hanz or a gen strap and KAPOW!! You're in business with a watch you will never get tired of. I've owned both as gen and as rep. The rep is better!!! Because it cost nothing to replace. Only thing is don't go swimming with the rep. Hope this helpsSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk And here is a California w/ Mr Hanz strap. One of my favsSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Noob 005. I've never been into expensive straps but can recommend BOB or Meyhofer for affordable ones of reasonable quality.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinkis Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Agree. MR Hanz is awesome though. Around $75 shipped for a horween calf leather with buckle! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertini4u Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 I would also agree with @netniet, the PAM 111 v3 is a great starting point. Another personal favorite of mine is the 127. I have had mine forever with no issues (I do get it serviced). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esco Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 Personally, I love the 247, that would be my vote... closed CB, same dial as the 111, no rollerball CG, limited production.As mentioned above though, you really can't go wrong these days with what have been mentioned, the 005 and 111 especially. Might as well get them all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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