gasebah Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) Hi guys,I have a Noob 243 since maybe two years, Somehow in recent weeks the date loupe seems to degrade. The distortion seems higher than it used to be, and I see some odd reflections. It is kind of a "know you see me, now you don't" thing, so I am afraid I cannot even grab it in a picture. I cannot put my finger on it but it seems that the loupe has loosened itself a tad and is somehow floating below the crystal.The question I have:Does the Noob take a gen crystal, or is there any good quality after market crystal that will fit the case and date window.-Alex Edited September 25, 2015 by gasebah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteM Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Yes gen will fit and I always preferred the H makers cyclops on PAMs but that maybe different now or rather more recently..The crystal is one piece mate so I am a bit of a loss to explain your issue assuming i understand it that is Have you been to opticians,,, Are you sure its not an issue thats always been there and you have only just noticed it or taken more time to study it recently and the perception has grown...I know it sounds daft but the mind and memory can play tricks on you...The gen cyclops especially the 7mm on later models is very distorting at even the slightest angle... my gens are like that with the cyclops ...though again thats assuming i understand your concerns.. as I might be totally misunderstanding what your saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasebah Posted September 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 >>Are you sure its not an issue thats always been there and you have only just noticed it or taken more time to study it recently and the perception has grown...I know it sounds daft but the mind and memory can play tricks on you...<<Thanks Pete! Quite frankly that may well be the case. I have a lot of watches and the PAM 243 did not get much wrist time over the last few months until I rediscovered her lately. I looked into this a few days ago when I suddenly discovered a brown spot in the cyclops area. I wanted to polish it off until I realized that it wasn't a spot but some kind of odd reflection. Since then I have discovered all kinds of irregularities. May be I am only in the process of loosing it. It is hard to not get nuts in this hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derik429 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Here's mine. I thought that I had scratches on my cycles at one point until I finally figured out its the glare and it changes with different lighting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteM Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 >>Are you sure its not an issue thats always been there and you have only just noticed it or taken more time to study it recently and the perception has grown...I know it sounds daft but the mind and memory can play tricks on you...<<Thanks Pete! Quite frankly that may well be the case. I have a lot of watches and the PAM 243 did not get much wrist time over the last few months until I rediscovered her lately. I looked into this a few days ago when I suddenly discovered a brown spot in the cyclops area. I wanted to polish it off until I realized that it wasn't a spot but some kind of odd reflection. Since then I have discovered all kinds of irregularities. May be I am only in the process of loosing it. It is hard to not get nuts in this hobby.No mate..that elusive spot is as said a quirk of variations in light and the angle etc sometimes you will think its scratched other times the dial has mark etc etcThe noob crystal aint the best and I aint comparing it by any means to the gen but its a common sort of question or concern asked even by gen owners... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasebah Posted September 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 You are right mate. Here is a photo from 2014 that shows exactly what I am talking about. Escapes me why I never noticed it The distortion, yes, but not these strange artifacts. Talking about the dot over the 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocram Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Absolutely normal!Convex or concav crystals do strange things!Also gens are that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteM Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Absolutely my gens do exactly the same mate... move away from the area ...Nothing to see here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentoso74 Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 I think is the light reflection. Mine have that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasebah Posted September 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 Thanks guys for giving me back my peace of mind. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swdivad Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 I just received a PAM 243J and it has this anomaly as well... plus lots of distortion: Here's a good video of the gen: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasebah Posted September 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 (edited) Three things strike me while watching this video:1. The gen has the same feature regarding the strange reflections of the crystal though much less distortion.2. It is amazing how far the reps have come.3. It is amazing how some people can talk a full 10 minutes without really saying anything. Edited September 28, 2015 by gasebah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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